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Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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This is also a consequence of Brexit and the UK aligning with the USA corporate interests.

Hardly, similar emergency authorizations have been applied in other EU countries, in actuality these exemptions were applied last year and the UK is late in doing this... Not sure how the EU really comes into this at all.

https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/news/pesticides-efsa-examine-e...

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

#23

I've caught a few news here & there since Brexit started coming about GB receding from say higher foot safety/quality standards (because of US pressure in that specific article), and then some pesticides articles including this. Is this just a random noise or does generally EU has higher standard for environment & food safety compared to where UK is heading?

The EU does have higher standards and have more regulation than the US. The UK will set their own now, which they can lighten up.

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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A society of advanced apes with a penchant for destroying their environment decides that a species that is necessary for their survival is better off dead because they don't care for a weird thing called science.

I don't think the UK wants the bee species dead. I think we/they just take for granted the resiliency of the environment we live in.

More like: I don't think the UK wants the bee species dead. I think business interests just want money now more.

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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A society of advanced apes with a penchant for destroying their environment decides that a species that is necessary for their survival is better off dead because they don't care for a weird thing called science.

Honey bee's are not native to Britain, and are not in any danger of disappearing because, like chickens, sheep, cows, and other livestock, we control their population; when demand or price of honey bee's is high beekeepers produce more, when it is low they produce less: https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/04/17/bee-apocalypse-was-neve...

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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post #22
post #13

This is also a consequence of Brexit and the UK aligning with the USA corporate interests.

Hardly, similar emergency authorizations have been applied in other EU countries, in actuality these exemptions were applied last year and the UK is late in doing this... Not sure how the EU really comes into this at all. https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/news/pesticides-efsa-examine-e...

It comes in because the subheading and first paragraph are carefully written to capture brexit-inflamed eyeballs.

They do later tell you "11 countries to allow emergency use of the product" and "The UK ... joined EU countries including Belgium, Denmark and Spain in signing emergency authorisations", but easy to miss on the first skim.

That doesn't of course imply that it's a great idea. A 25% decline in £18m worth of sugar doesn't really sound like a big enough deal, but maybe localized short-term use of chemical weapons also isn't such a big deal, I don't know?

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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Neonics were blamed for colony collapse disorder even though there was zero evidence and bees that die due to pesticides are found dead on the ground below the hive. IIRC, CCD had a migration pattern that was exactly what one would expect from the spread of a disease or parasite and had zero in common with an environmental toxin.

The title is accurate depending on what “believed” means. I suppose I gave my kid vaccines believed to cause autism.

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

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A society of advanced apes with a penchant for destroying their environment decides that a species that is necessary for their survival is better off dead because they don't care for a weird thing called science.

We'd rather have cheap sweet things than expensive sweet things. Then we'll come up with a cheap solution for the consequences that causes even more problems, and on and on. It seems like most of the problems we have as a society are because we choose expedient solutions rather than careful solutions to problems.

Vote with your dollar and buy organic. It’s not cheap, but it sends a message.

Re: Pesticide believed to kill bees is authorised for use in England

#30

I've caught a few news here & there since Brexit started coming about GB receding from say higher foot safety/quality standards (because of US pressure in that specific article), and then some pesticides articles including this. Is this just a random noise or does generally EU has higher standard for environment & food safety compared to where UK is heading?

The EU does have higher standards and have more regulation than the US. The UK will set their own now, which they can lighten up.

Except in this case some of the other EU countries have allowed the same (?) already a year ago.
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