Police found pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol

It was a terribly bad idea for the major tech platforms to go for the Trump ban right now. There’s a highy unstable force out there born specifically from the idea that they’re an oppressed and censored group of people, and this ban action is pouring a tanker of gasoline into an already raging bonfire.

I get why it had to be done; the general public has never had any regard for second-order effects and big tech will hardly risk their market cap. However, the big threat now is that these people will go out with a bang - literally.

Re: Police found pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol

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Post by chipgap98 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 12:42 PM UTC

waihtis wrote: post #4

It was a terribly bad idea for the major tech platforms to go for the Trump ban right now. There’s a highy unstable force out there born specifically from the idea that they’re an oppressed and censored group of people, and this ban action is pouring a tanker of gasoline into an already raging bonfire. I get why it had to be done; the general public has never had any regard for second-order effects and big tech will…

I think that was already a big risk. I don't think the Twitter ban is going to change anything other than taking away a platform that is being used to spread misinformation, anger, and fear

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Post by tartaglia » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 12:46 PM UTC

waihtis wrote: post #4

It was a terribly bad idea for the major tech platforms to go for the Trump ban right now. There’s a highy unstable force out there born specifically from the idea that they’re an oppressed and censored group of people, and this ban action is pouring a tanker of gasoline into an already raging bonfire. I get why it had to be done; the general public has never had any regard for second-order effects and big tech will…

I agree about the bad timing. They could have kept the accounts on, assigning a task force to review each post until 20th Jan. It looks to me like a symbolic gesture which is gonna fuel conspiracies and anger. I mean, the presidential account is still on so the guy is still able to tweet.

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Post by buran77 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 12:54 PM UTC

> Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.

Wonder if this is what makes lawmakers consider some sensible gun regulation...

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Post by pjc50 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:03 PM UTC

waihtis wrote: post #4

It was a terribly bad idea for the major tech platforms to go for the Trump ban right now. There’s a highy unstable force out there born specifically from the idea that they’re an oppressed and censored group of people, and this ban action is pouring a tanker of gasoline into an already raging bonfire. I get why it had to be done; the general public has never had any regard for second-order effects and big tech will…

Other way round: they've been talking this stuff up for decades. This is just the continuation of Waco and Ruby Ridge and Malheur and those guys who tried to kidnap a governor and the guy who blew up a telephone exchange and a dozen ""lone wolf"" mass shooters. And the "killdozer" guy. Eventually all the thousands of ""lone wolves"" who share the same ideas and politics and gun suppliers were going to get together.

They're angry. They're always angry, that's their politics. Social media, talk radio, and the Republican party have been stoking that anger with lies. I agree that it's impossible to completely cut off the conduit of lies, but something has to be done - and deplatforming works.

One of them was a retired USAF senior officer: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9128637/MAGA-mob-ri...

That's not an oppressed and censored person, that's a power hungry person trying to conduct his own little military coup.

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Post by pjc50 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:05 PM UTC

buran77 wrote: post #7

> Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said. Wonder if this is what makes lawmakers consider some sensible gun regulation...

Every time gun regulation is brought up, conservatives claim the 2nd amendment is quite clear that guns are for revolution and that armed insurrection is somehow constitutional.

I think we're now seeing the logical conclusion of that.

You may well be right; senior dems have been too friendly with republicans as individuals for too long. Nothing ends that friendship like discovering them cheering on the people calling for your execution.

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Post by rtx » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:06 PM UTC

buran77 wrote: post #7

> Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said. Wonder if this is what makes lawmakers consider some sensible gun regulation...

You want to ban the most beautiful thing about America?