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rolandog wrote: post #225
mncharity wrote: post #149

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> scientists Not only scientists need sci-hub. Educators need sci-hub. People writing education content. Or trying to understand existing content, steeped in misconceptions. Students. A science-literate public. When I hobby work on OER science education content, or even when I answer a "ask a science/history/whatever question" on reddit, I use google scholar, open access. and sci-hub . And "I'd really like to see pap…

Indeed. I was frustrated to learn that a 1871 paper [0], referenced previously on a HN thread [1], wasn't freely available online. [0]: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1478644710864060... [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25372871

That one is in the public domain, so it's legal for Sci-Hub to distribute it. I've also encountered publishers wanting tens of dollars for trivial items like news items or book reviews, even if public domain.

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Post by givepause »

mncharity wrote: post #61
hagibborim wrote: post #14

I donated ~$300 to SciHub and encourage you all to donate as well. Please give what you can, her bitcoin address can be found at the bottom of the homepage. https://sci-hub.do/

Is there an Easy Sci-Hub Donation for Dummies? scihub.org/donate/ looks scam. https://sci-hub.tech/donation/ at least has the same bitcoin address as sci-hub.do, but as for PayPal et al... ???

That's a scam site. Visit the official VK page for real links.

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Cenk wrote: post #99
mncharity wrote: post #61

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Is there an Easy Sci-Hub Donation for Dummies? scihub.org/donate/ looks scam. https://sci-hub.tech/donation/ at least has the same bitcoin address as sci-hub.do, but as for PayPal et al... ???

.org is definitely a different site and organization, they intentionally blur the lines to make people think they are associated with Sci-Hub.

It's a different site but they are not pretending to be Sci-Hub. The Chinese scam site is.

SciHub.org was formed in 2008 and has 50 employees per CrunchBase.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/science-hub

Real organization, coincidentally a very similar domain and area of work.

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Post by givepause »

hagibborim wrote: post #79
mncharity wrote: post #61

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Is there an Easy Sci-Hub Donation for Dummies? scihub.org/donate/ looks scam. https://sci-hub.tech/donation/ at least has the same bitcoin address as sci-hub.do, but as for PayPal et al... ???

.do seems like the canonical domain

https://sci-hub.do

https://sci-hub.st

https://sci-hub.se

are the only working domains that have been linked from the official Twitter, VK, or FB accounts.

All other URLs should be considered unofficial or scams.

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fakedang wrote: post #148
hndudette2 wrote: post #105

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I'm going off my experience with doctors that I know personally. There's definitely a personality type or an attitude there that shuts them off to things that a layperson will bring to them even if it's based on good science (only they haven't studied it before).

Past experience is to blame for that. A lot of doctors blame patients for bringing utter bullshit that they scraped from Facebook or YouTube as the next Gen therapy. For instance, I have a background in biochemical engineering, my fiancée is a cancer surgeon, 4 cousins are doctors, and another 3 cousins married doctors. Yet the entire family collectively believes in homeopathy, unani medicine (Greek medicine) and oth…

> "burning Turmeric powder and inhaling it would prevent COVID"

This kind of bullshit is too prevalent around here, sadly. And telling that ayurveda is pseudoscience instantly makes you "anti-national" and what not.

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jszymborski wrote: post #8
xnyan wrote: post #4

Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

This case is unlike movie or music distribution in there has been convenient online distribution of papers since arguably the dawn of the internet (ok, maybe "convenient" came later). The difference is, the journal publisher groups realised they can continue charging extortionary prices and get rid of the competition of "free" paper websites by suing everything that moved. Academics, generally getting slightly-less-t…

I think an appropriate solution is getting the prestigious reviewers of top journals to quit and move to open access model funded by the government. The difficult step is convincing the bureacracy at different levels (universities, govt) and of course preventing lobbying.

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Post by 3131s »

wincy wrote: post #33
xnyan wrote: post #4

Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

When our daughter was born with a rare life threatening condition my wife used SciHub to read articles about her condition. While the doctors had merely skimmed the pages, my wife pored over them and found a suggestion of using a particular drug. After asking five different doctors about it, one finally agreed to prescribe it. It was strange how reticent doctors were to prescribe something and instead just told us sh…

My mom bought thousands of dollars worth of journal articles so that she could self-diagnose a serious lung condition that doctors had missed. They ended up studying her case at the Mayo clinic.

Alexandra Elbakyan is a hero.

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f430 wrote: post #229
j-james wrote: post #190

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facebook: https://pleroma.social/ instagram: https://pixelfed.org/ blogger: https://write.as/ soundcloud: https://funkwhale.audio/ At the end of the day, though, the Fediverse is just like any other social network - most people join because their friends or people they know have.

What if you could use the existing Facebook, Youtube, Instagram clients and seamlessly be connected to both the "centralized content from FANG" and "decentralized content from FEDIVERSE" ? If your content gets censored it would be archived on the fallback fediverse, therefore neutralizing their ban hammer?

That'd be very cool, but you then run into the data collection issues of all of those platforms. Many Fediverse users aren't so much concerned with being censored by Big Tech as they are with being hit with targeted advertising.

Really, I'd be happy with a way to seamlessly follow friends / public figures that are on FANG + Twitter, even if it's a one way road.

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