Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
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Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
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Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#2Seems to be gaining popularity all around the world. https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1347699781326438404
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#3> India is WhatsApp's biggest market with over 400 million users
> Signal saw 2,200 installs on India's app stores on Wednesday up 38% from 1,600 installs in the week ended December 30, according to mobile intelligence firm Sensor Tower. Signal saw about 51,000 installs in December, up 11% from 46,000 in November.
Its going to take a while to catch up I think, but:
> Harada declined to provide numbers, citing company policy, saying the Sensor Tower data was “directionally correct, but generally the numbers are off by a few magnitudes.”
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#4> India is WhatsApp's biggest market with over 400 million users > Signal saw 2,200 installs on India's app stores on Wednesday up 38% from 1,600 installs in the week ended December 30, according to mobile intelligence firm Sensor Tower. Signal saw about 51,000 installs in December, up 11% from 46,000 in November. Its going to take a while to catch up I think, but: > Harada declined to provide numbers, citing company…
It's not even the equivalent of a drop in the ocean. I generally avoid indiatimes.com as it is not a reputable source of information. I am truly surprised to see it pop up on HN
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#5Signal won't be able to make even a dent in WhatsApp's empire.
WhatsApp isn't just a messaging app. With its stories and statuses, it's a mini social network in and of itself.
Beyond the HackerNews crowd, most people don't care about privacy. They care about features. Signal won't be able to compete with WhatsApp unless it builds some of those features into its app.
Edit - HackerNews crowd seems to get tunnel visioned when it comes to tech products. Every response below is something on the lines of "I don't use stories" or "None or my contacts use stories".
I don't use stories either. And most millenials don't use it unless they are extroverts. But we make a small percentage of their audience.
Take a look at boomer WhatsApp in India. Every single boomer shares stories with images of Gods or daily morning blessings, where they went, what they cooked etc. The network effects are too strong. Nobody wants to miss out on the stories of their grandchildren's birthday or their nephew's marriage.
Even I wish that there was an en-masse migration from WhatsApp to Signal. But that's just a HackerNews pipe dream. Not happening.
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#6Signal won't be able to make even a dent in WhatsApp's empire. WhatsApp isn't just a messaging app. With its stories and statuses, it's a mini social network in and of itself. Beyond the HackerNews crowd, most people don't care about privacy. They care about features. Signal won't be able to compete with WhatsApp unless it builds some of those features into its app. Edit - HackerNews crowd seems to get tunnel visione…
Why does signal need to compete?
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#7Signal won't be able to make even a dent in WhatsApp's empire. WhatsApp isn't just a messaging app. With its stories and statuses, it's a mini social network in and of itself. Beyond the HackerNews crowd, most people don't care about privacy. They care about features. Signal won't be able to compete with WhatsApp unless it builds some of those features into its app. Edit - HackerNews crowd seems to get tunnel visione…
Who would ever use dropbox if you can use FTP on Linux?
It's obvious that Signal is going to release stories. It will just be in a privacy protecting manner when they're ready.
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#8> India is WhatsApp's biggest market with over 400 million users > Signal saw 2,200 installs on India's app stores on Wednesday up 38% from 1,600 installs in the week ended December 30, according to mobile intelligence firm Sensor Tower. Signal saw about 51,000 installs in December, up 11% from 46,000 in November. Its going to take a while to catch up I think, but: > Harada declined to provide numbers, citing company…
Even so, Christmas/New year is going to lead to arbitrary peaks and troughs in the data because people will be setting up new phones, starting new jobs/university courses (for which they need extra apps) etc.
The only fair way to look at it is on a percentage basis (ie. of all chat apps installed last week, what percentage was whatsapp, and what percentage was signal?)
I would be shocked if Signal has even 1% of installations in india.
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#9Signal won't be able to make even a dent in WhatsApp's empire. WhatsApp isn't just a messaging app. With its stories and statuses, it's a mini social network in and of itself. Beyond the HackerNews crowd, most people don't care about privacy. They care about features. Signal won't be able to compete with WhatsApp unless it builds some of those features into its app. Edit - HackerNews crowd seems to get tunnel visione…
> With its stories and statuses
Do people really use those?
No one in my contacts ever use it, me included.
Re: Signal gaining popularity in India after WhatsApp policy changes
#10Signal won't be able to make even a dent in WhatsApp's empire. WhatsApp isn't just a messaging app. With its stories and statuses, it's a mini social network in and of itself. Beyond the HackerNews crowd, most people don't care about privacy. They care about features. Signal won't be able to compete with WhatsApp unless it builds some of those features into its app. Edit - HackerNews crowd seems to get tunnel visione…
iPhone won’t be able to make even a dent in the BlackBerry empire.