We need Russians - or people outside of the progressive bubble of Europe and North America - to create an alternate internet, please. Starting with browser, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook replacement. Then onto OS - mobile and desktop.
We need more than deplatforming
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#12Uhh, Mozilla should maybe not be posting if this if they want to be The Privacy Company(TM)?
I'll be switching my VPN to straight Mullvad instead of to a group that sold it's soul to Google. Same tech, less baggage.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Mozilla blog post you are replying about is suggesting increasing transparency , not suggesting more censorship.
You're being quite glib if you're honestly pretending not to see the glaring subtext there. The intention is obviously to increase transparency in order to stamp out unwanted opinions before they even spread .
Yes. Unwanted opinions like "we should overthrow the will of the people using force".
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#14I really don't recognize the society that we are moving towards. People are welcoming censorship with open arms. Twitter and other social media are the public spaces of the internet. Deplatforming someone there is essentially as if the governments bans the public speech of someone in the "real" world. It truly gives me shivers down my spine...
The Mozilla blog post you are replying about is suggesting increasing transparency , not suggesting more censorship.
"Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation."
Who gets to decide which is which? Why would I want to tell people they are wrong about how they experience the world when they disagree with the way I do?
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#15Mozilla seems to go out of its way to make it harder for right-leaning people to back them with every move they make...
I can't help but feel we're in for a bumpy 2021.
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#16This thread is a joke. Mozilla is putting forth some great ideas to fix the internet without overt censorship. A plan that can work in the long term to improve the internet.
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#17This thread is a joke. Mozilla is putting forth some great ideas to fix the internet without overt censorship. A plan that can work in the long term to improve the internet.
The article leads with a big "HEY LOOK, we can be trendy and dunk on the President too!"
And then sort of whimpers its way into the ever popular "let's have 'independent' fact-checkers to tell you up is down and left is right."
"All animals are equal, but left leaning animals are more equal"
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#18> Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken:
> Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted.
> Commit to meaningful transparency of platform algorithms so we know how and what content is being amplified, to whom, and the associated impact.
> Turn on by default the tools to amplify factual* voices over disinformation.
> Work with independent researchers to facilitate in-depth studies of the platforms’ impact on people and our societies, and what we can do to improve things.
*go to the article for the link
Short, clear, and forward-moving (I think).
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#19This thread is a joke. Mozilla is putting forth some great ideas to fix the internet without overt censorship. A plan that can work in the long term to improve the internet.
The blog post also explicitly advocates in favor of deplatforming.
It doesn't just get to walk away from that, even if it has additional recommendations.
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#20This thread is a joke. Mozilla is putting forth some great ideas to fix the internet without overt censorship. A plan that can work in the long term to improve the internet.
The article leads with a big "HEY LOOK, we can be trendy and dunk on the President too!" And then sort of whimpers its way into the ever popular "let's have 'independent' fact-checkers to tell you up is down and left is right." "All animals are equal, but left leaning animals are more equal"
If there's one person you don't have to be pursuing trendiness to criticize, it's Trump.