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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#882

Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

Here’s the solution, lost in noise.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24263815

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#883
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Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.

That private businesses can keep people off of their properties?

I see this comment a lot.

What does suppression of free speech in America look like to you then?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#884

While your High School Civics class said a lot of things, the reality is (most of) The Founders got together because they saw where things were headed and they were terrified of mob violence that was breaking out in the colonies. They worried that either the Brits would arrive a crush things, or the locals would turn on them with tar and feather. So they got together and engineered a very weak democracy, unsure which…

This is actually the most accurate description of almost ALL revolutions, if not all. If you read history, you will see the leaders of revolutions are not ordinary people. They are always elites. Revolutions always been less powerful elites getting rid of more powerful elites. People are just pawns in their games.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#885

Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

The constitutional scholar perspective: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/28/trump-is-...

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#888
post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

So Obama, Biden, Bush, et. al. should be banned too for all the completely unnecessary wars/drone strikes that killed civilians?? Or is killing civilians sometimes accepted?

This move is entirely political, Twitter should just man up and accept it, instead of insulting our intelligence.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#889

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

Black Lives Matter is still allowed on Twitter. Dozens of people have died from their protests and riots, not to mention hundreds of businesses vandalized, looted, and set afire. Ditto Antifa. This ban is utterly political, which, depending on how "libertarian" you are, may be fine. But the precedent is not a good one in my opinion.

100% agree, these social media companies with their fake empathy and double standards are not fooling anyone.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#890
post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I'm scared for the inauguration. Already lots of chat on the same forums/parlor/etc The scaffolding and wooden structure they were on is the JCCIC built platform, and that disgusting video of the tunnel is where POTUS walks out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOgGsC0G9U

Ironically, I was worried about it before, but not now. Now that the Capitol Hill event has happened, the security effort will undoubtedly be multiplied multiple times over.
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