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Where is racism "literally written" into the constitution? edit: look I know it's bad form on here to complain about being downvoted, but I was asking an honest question. Chill, people.
I assume he is talking about the 3/5 compromise. I wonder if you could tell us, GP, which states wanted that number to be one and which wanted it to be zero?
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> If they want a platform for it they can build it themselves... Right, right. That’s working out well for Parlor.
They found their own pool to go pee in, and now they’re surprised that nobody wants to swim with them. It’s not everyone else’s fault that nobody else wants to be around these people. If you go to the pub and start picking fights you’ll be avoided and thrown out pretty quickly. This is the same: they went off and created their own app, their behaviour got worse, and now nobody else wants to deal with them. What is un…
It’s the water department who wants to turn off the hose. Or some strained analogy like that.
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Where is racism "literally written" into the constitution? edit: look I know it's bad form on here to complain about being downvoted, but I was asking an honest question. Chill, people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise The Three-fifths Compromise was a compromise reached among state delegates during the 1787 United States Constitutional Convention. Delegates disputed whether and how slaves would be counted when determining a state's total population, as this number would determine a state's number of seats in the House of Representatives and how much it would pay in taxes. The c…
> The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
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#754Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off. The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right. We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the populat…
Or maybe just a loud segment of the population.
~22% of the US population voted for Trump (75M out of 330M).
How many voted because they love Trump and his dangerous brand of politics? How many voted for him as an FU to liberals? And how many voted for Trump because they want conservative judges, lower taxes, a ban on abortion, etc. and are willing to hold their nose and vote for him?
Trump rallies were dwarfed by Obama’s crowds. Trump marches were dwarfed by BLM, climate and women’s marches. But the media loved every non-traditional thing he did and America was happy to watch the train wreck.
It’s an emotional time right now, but my neighbors with Trump flags are still nice people and are a far cry from the few hundred (or thousand) lunatics that are drumming up trouble.
If we can give folks direct representation or at least something other than winner take all voting, we might start getting the politicians we deserve.
Don’t forget, Trump had the lowest % primary vote share of a presidential candidate. He simply won because so many other candidates were splitting the vote. Put him head to head against other politicians and he loses. Give republicans ranked voice voting and I doubt he ever gets nominated.
This too shall pass, but I doubt it gets as big as the civil war some fear. A Republican will step up to fill the political void and reprint the party in their own image and voters will fall in line.
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#755Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is racism "literally written" into the constitution? edit: look I know it's bad form on here to complain about being downvoted, but I was asking an honest question. Chill, people.
I assume he is talking about the 3/5 compromise. I wonder if you could tell us, GP, which states wanted that number to be one and which wanted it to be zero?
Of course slaves weren’t allowed to vote, and 3/5ths meant that the South would get more representation as recognition of the economic strength they were bringing to the union.
It’s not like the Northern vs Southern states were arguing about whether a slave’s vote was worth 0, 3/5, or 1. This was about ascribing more (or less) power to slave owners.
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People don't seem to understand what censorship is. Nobody is threatening throwing them in jail for saying anything, platforms are just saying "your speech is not welcome in my platform". They can still say whatever they want it in the streets. If they want a platform for it they can build it themselves....
> If they want a platform for it they can build it themselves... Right, right. That’s working out well for Parlor.
Nor does the First Amendment guarantee that exercising your freedom of speech will work out well for you. Circulation, reaction, lack of an overbearing editor---none of these are entitlements under our laws.
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#757Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off. The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right. We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the populat…
At the end of a sports contest, one side my be very unhappy with the result. Perhaps even violently so. But it doesn't change the outcome. This was contested and decided, even if there are people who still disagree
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The Supreme Court has recognized that corporations are just ways of organizing people, and those people do have free speech rights. I’m not sure how this could be changed without a constitutional amendment. Unless you have another suggestion?
Use the laws on the books to make these companies public trusts, as was done to the large trusts in the 20th century. If there is real competition on these platforms, if there were many app stores, then this wouldn't be an issue. These five or six companies have too much consolidated power.
I'm aware of "trust busting" in an earlier time, but not nationalizations, except, predominantly, in time of war.
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#759Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off. The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right. We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the populat…
They had 60+ chances to make a case, and couldn't...
>> We're not even listening to them
>> We're not debating anymore.
I'm not listening anymore because there IS no debate. 'Debate' is an exchange of ideas. This is basically a 'harangue' - and personally, I'm tired of it. No one has a 'right' to force people to listen to them.
>> We just assume we're right.
No, I assume they're wrong as the logic doesn't hold up. There is a difference. Personally, I think the election basically boiled down to 'rural' vs 'urban', but I'm sure there are other views. I can't force people to believe my views 'cuz I said so!' anymore then Trump can force me to believe him, 'cuz he said so!'
>> Wouldn't you do the same?
I don't recall doing the same when Bernie was written off by DNC, and there actually WAS evidence the DNC tilted things against him.
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> I find it somewhat implausible that half the population is dumb, racist and all those other labels Why do you think this? Racism was the absolute norm in the US until ~not that long ago. It’s literally written into the constitution and it took literal bloodshed to change that. And then when we did, there was massive pushback in the form of Jim Crow laws. Statistically you’d expect half of people to be dumber than a…
Where is racism "literally written" into the constitution? edit: look I know it's bad form on here to complain about being downvoted, but I was asking an honest question. Chill, people.