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Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

Are you implying it's "not a coincidence"? Because of course it's not. The bigger companies (twitter, facebook) minimized risk of fallout by waiting until DT's time in power was up and there was a good opportunity to do what they wanted (Jan 6th events), and the other companies are just following in their footsteps while it makes good PR. It's kinda like when BLM was hot in the news and companies decided to paint the…

How is that pathetic?

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

They decide based upon the same criteria everyone uses; how close a threat is to their power, self agency...

Trump attempting to overthrow the election is much more of a threat to Twitter than Trump being an otherwise typical GOP rage monger until now

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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The most ominous thing is how well-coordinated the megacorps are. I would say that it's time to put some checks on those incredible powers, but realistically, that's like complaining about Christian theological dominance during the middle ages in Europe. It's a shame that action was not taken much, much earlier (that is, a decade ago or so).

This sort of coordination is exactly what free markets do. There's no conspiracy or coordination other than that. You may as well imply that there was some sort of coordination between every marketing department releasing an ad saying "In these uncertain times..." last March. The coup failed, the dust settled, Biden will be inaugurated, and most importantly, the Democrats took control of the Senate for the next two y…

Wrong. They came to the same conclusion at the same time because their side of the battle finally won and now they can punish their enemies safely. That's all there is to it. Anything else is a rationalization. In the future if the other side ever wins again it should act the same way and punish their enemies too, in a stronger and more vindictive manner. And this should escalate until one side seizes total control or a split happens in the country. This is the logical conclusion of this and thus it is what should happen and likely will happen.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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It's going to be exhausting watching people explain how the First Amendment works, ad nauseam, over the next few days.

I would like to see people who are advocating for free speech on private platforms to expand what they are saying to also cover their position on property rights. Fine, fine, I get that a lot of people here are chilled by threats to open discussion. But please go further, how do you balance that with a private company's right to do what they want with their own product? I personally find it very threatening as a prod…

It's easy to draw an arbitrary line based on market dominance. Compare to abortion laws — at some point, a fetus is considered a person. The exact point is contentious and arbitrary, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

When Biden moves to the White House, he should remove Trump's Presidential portrait from the wall. Completely unperson the guy, like he never existed.

Hard disagree. Permanent reminders of these failure need to be installed in very public places. The ideas and things that have resulted in the 37th of December (because 2020 didn't really stop) must be addressed. They are as a part of the US as the 3/5ths compromise on human life. Trying to power wash these stains away is not going to help the US. Meandering, uncomfortable, long, and difficult conversations are the best cure. There are no cheats to this, and there are no deferrals. Each US citizen is in this birthright.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Honest question: Are people who are upset about this upset because they believe that Twitter should never ban anyone, or are they upset because they believe Trump has not violated any of Twitter's policies, or are they upset because they believe that Trump should not be banned even if he violates Twitter's policies?

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

I'm not throwing a slippery slope anything out. You are failing to see the interconnected nature of all of the things I mentioned. Twitter and all the big tech companies should be nationalized, but they won't be because like financial institutions they are more powerful than any government at this point. If you think this power trip all these companies are currently on is going to end with the bad orange man then you are not very well versed in history.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Is anyone concerned by the coordinated efforts of Facebook Google, Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Apple today? If these groups and individuals that were banned were violating the TOS before, why did they leave them in place for so long? How do these companies decide when to enforce their rules, since obviously it's not immediately? And do they make deals with one another (I'll ban someone you don't like if you ban som…

A historic event occurred - how could you take that to mean it was coordinated?

well according to 4chan it was all coordinated by the Jews.. or ANTIFA.. or the Vatican.. Illuminati.. that one guy that stole their lunch money that one time..

(per 4chan/qanon) it's all false flags. that lady wasn't shot. she threw herself back on to her padded backpack... because "they" knew that if someone "died" then they could quell the uprising. (which is actually pretty insulting to the "revolution" isn't it?)

i spent the day poking around a lot of conspiracy theories and videos and man.. that's one big rabbit hole of mental illness.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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Something that isn't being talked about anymore: Trump chose twitter. He chose to stay on it, to use his personal account, to use it as his primary method of communication. US presidents have the biggest, loudest loudspeakers available at their fingertips. Obama's administration had a whole protocol about how to use Twitter as one of their official comms medium and not have it be a de facto one. Biden is so far follo…

Yup. I blame Twitter too. They are too greedy. Just when their platform was receiving flak for not being profitable, trump comes on and they let him on because it was good business. Now that he is out of power, revenue from his enabling dwindles fast and criticism increases, so the business decision is to ban him.

I don't think that's fair. Twitter was not in an enviable position from the get go. Trump had been on there for years before he ran for president, and banning the president IS a big deal no matter how you spin it.

There is some grey area that was definitely crossed the last few years where banning him from twitter would have been the right thing to do. It was long before Jan 6th but i don't think it was so early in his term either.

What's done is done, I'm just glad it's over now tbh.

Re: Twitter suspends Trump's campaign account TeamTrump for violating its rules

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One could argue these companies are extensions of the government when they collude with the NSA to illegally spy on Americans.

That doesn't sound like a good-faith argument to me. Is Boeing the government also? AT&T? Did Chrysler become the government during the WW2 supply push?

If the government uses their monetary ties, or forces a company with threats of legal (or executive) action to suppress free speech, I believe that is a violation of the 1st amendment.
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