Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

Post by gamblor956 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 3:00 AM UTC

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To follow up on caconym's comment, FBI has confirmed that more than a dozen explosive devices were found at the Capitol after the siege, including pipe bombs left in front of the DNC offices.[1] 5 people died. 50 officers were wounded, some seriously enough that they are still in the hospital. Multiple protestors had zip ties and other means of restraint on them, knives, and guns, and on their social media profiles w…

When you say "these terrorist attacks", do you have a concrete definition in mind? Or are you just expressing outrage and disgust? Because right now, people accused of terrorism can be held in Guantanamo without habeas corpus. They are also subject to inclusion on government "kill lists"[1] with no opportunity for judicial review. The executive branch is claiming powers it has not had since the time of absolute monar…

Post by deelowe » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 3:01 AM UTC

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Here's a direct quote from someone I'm close to: "I don't agree at all with those people storming the capital. This does not represent who we are, but what do you expect when the media claims not a single voter fraud case was won in court when in fact almost all of them never went to trial? They are lying." Nearly half the nation voted for Trump. I don't believe half the nation is full of hatred and disinformation. N…

If your lawsuit doesn't even go to trial (for a variety of reasons), you clearly haven't won it. Unless you win a lawsuit, "haven't won any of their lawsuits" is 100% true. And the media did report on sme of the lawsuits being thrown out, but I'm sure they would have found something wrong with reporting that too. Or should the courts just suddenly start entertaining invalid lawsuits just so Trump lawyers don't look a…

Post by kemitchell » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 3:01 AM UTC

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Have you read the actual lawsuits which were filed? You are aware the "60 lawsuits being dismissed" is a lie right? Trump campaign only filed 5 lawsuits. The Georgia lawsuit still hasn't even had a judge assigned even though it was filed on December 4th. The TX lawsuit to the SCOTUS - they refused to even hear it. So how exactly can you say "illegitimate claims been promoted as legitimate"? Thousands of dead people,…

I'm not in a place to practice google-fu, but if I'm remembering correctly, wasn't the Texas lawsuit not heard by the USSC because they didn't follow the protocol necessary to have a case heard by the USSC?

Post by caconym_ » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 3:02 AM UTC

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What is “the other route”? They are being deplatformed because their speech is violent and damaging—in many cases it’s literal incitement to violence. Their legal cases are being rejected because they have no legal merit. The mainstream media refuse to take them seriously because they have again and again shown themselves to be bad faith actors, peddlers of unsubstantiated conspiracy, outright liars, and so on. I don…

Reducing your fellow countrymen to an animal analogy is exactly the kind of dehumanization that has become commonplace in popular discourse. It's not enough that you disagree with them, they must be put down like some rabid beast. We're on a path with this kind of thinking. If history is any guide, it doesn't end well.

Post by treeman79 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 3:02 AM UTC

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Yes, that is what reddit, twitter and Hacker News reinforce constantly. It's either because it's true, or because the other side has been repeatedly discouraged from adding their two cents in those communities. I've been seeing the world through this lens for so long that I can't tell. I find it somewhat implausible that half the population is dumb, racist and all those other labels. It seems much more likely that I…

>I find it somewhat implausible that half the population is dumb, racist and all those other labels. It seems much more likely that I don't fully understand their perspective. I don't think you've met enough people. Most people I've met are gullible idiots who are looking for excuses to believe nonsense.