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FBI, Homeland Security Int. Didn’t Issue Risk Assessment for ProTrump Protests

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Post by dmode »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #15

How convenient. They didn't do their jobs. The DC police didn't do their job. A possible pivotal moment and...nothing? But this is simply coincidence? Some of the "best & brightest" all simultaneously go brain dead? I'm no fan of Trump. But as such facts continue to align my distate for him is overshadowed by my fear of nefarious actors and other suspect agendas.

The nefarious actor is Trump and his cronies who most likely directed Federal agencies not to act. He already paused the National Guard deployment

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Post by logicslave »

mimikatz wrote: post #18
logicslave wrote: post #3

Theres a video of the police letting the protesters into the capitol. They opened the door and are standing to the side EDIT: I urge people to go watch the video. My opinion is that many walking in thought it was a protest and was just something the group was doing.

There is also video of them shooting and killing people trying to enter the capital and video of them actively pushing back and being overwhelmed. Much more than one out of context clip.

True, but I think that one was protecting the inner rooms, close to where pence was

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Post by wwright »

logicslave wrote: post #12
avs733 wrote: post #6

Let’s be blunt... because white people. This is the same thing that happened in Charlottesville and the after action review of Charlottesville made that clear. No one listened. The need here isn’t more police or more training or more gear. Any of those things would just be used to harm people of color and low income communities. What needs to happen is people stop being taken in by bad faith arguments about “free spe…

Did you see the riots this summer? Probably over 20 police were shot.

Given that there were literally millions of protestors on the streets over the summer, 20 is a pretty tiny number. Multiple people have already died from the DC attacks, just in two days in one city, with a much smaller number of people.

That’s just comparing the number of deaths, and putting aside that one was a massive distributed protest of government brutality and the other was an attempted coup.

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Post by chris11 »

What's also disturbing is that the Pentagon severely limited the DC National Guard days before the protests. Allowing things like surveillance and air assets wouldn't have caused any issues if the protests really were peaceful. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-prote...

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Post by jonnyone »

That was the strangest aspect of Wednesday to me. They knew there was going to be a huge rally that day. Surely that alone would warrant beefed up security. And the idea that it was just because "they're white people" doesn't add up - even if that were their logic, it was a pro-Trump rally, wouldn't they expect counter-protesters? Weren't there weeks of Proud Boy/Antifa scuffles and violence directly preceding this? The same FBI who caught the Whitmer plotters didn't sniff out any of the multiple reports of premeditation regarding the capitol?

Is it incompetence?

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Post by logicslave »

wwright wrote: post #24
logicslave wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see the riots this summer? Probably over 20 police were shot.

Given that there were literally millions of protestors on the streets over the summer, 20 is a pretty tiny number. Multiple people have already died from the DC attacks, just in two days in one city, with a much smaller number of people. That’s just comparing the number of deaths, and putting aside that one was a massive distributed protest of government brutality and the other was an attempted coup.

you are brainwashed

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Post by whoisburbansky »

logicslave wrote: post #3

Theres a video of the police letting the protesters into the capitol. They opened the door and are standing to the side EDIT: I urge people to go watch the video. My opinion is that many walking in thought it was a protest and was just something the group was doing.

All the comments talking about how the Capitol Police didn’t have any choice but to let the protestors in, the bigger question is why weren’t they reinforced with National Guardsmen, who were apparently ready and prepared for exactly this situation ahead of time. Linked article from four days ago. [1]

1. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/dc-national-guard-activa...

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Post by wwright »

whoisburbansky wrote: post #4

The article is a little light on details, but I can’t help wondering why, especially given the massive amounts of resources and funding going into surveillance and intelligence gathering post 9/11.

Because after 9/11 we spent twenty years pretending that brown men are the perpetrators of mass violence in this country
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