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Re: Google Bans Parler from the Google Play Store

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That's also what I thought. Instead of using fire extinguishers, FB/Apple/Google are adding more gasoline to the fire. This is going to radicalize people (especially conspiracy theorists) who now think have actual, indisputable "proof" these companies are there to get them.

This is my main worry. I’m not worried about Parler getting taken down, they have no intrinsic right to have access to these stores hosted by private entities. They can self host, or find someone willing to host them, or implement moderation so they don’t have people calling for the death of senators on their service. But I am worried this will light a fuse towards further radicalization.

Radicalization because they're too lazy or too dumb or whatever to create their own platform. I'd be mad too if I couldn't harass folks and spread my hate easily.

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Is there any argument for anti-competitive behavior here? It's weird because Google/Apple don't directly compete with Parler or other alternate social media sites, but they are clearly in the same bed with those who do, Facebook, Twitter. For instance Jack Dorsey recently admitted that his employees coordinate with employees at the other big tech companies on moderation actions. I'm just wondering what if any legal c…

YES. Banning parler on the same day you ban Trump? This was planned and co-ordinated by Twitter and Apple. It's likely the activist group "Sleeping Giants" is involved as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Giants

You'd do well to cite sources and provide evidence - specific to this, not just a generalized Wiki article - when making such claims.

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It's conspiracies all the way down for you folks isn't it?

Big Tech has collaborated to de-platform people before. Remember when Alex Jones got banned from literally everything in one day?

Maybe they’re not coordinating and they’re just cowardly. Alex Jones should have been pre-banned the moment anyone ever heard of him. The fact that he wasn’t was a clear indication that these platforms either didn’t know who he was, didn’t think he’d get the audience he did, or were simply afraid of the blowback.

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As someone who enjoys technology and liberty this is a very disturbing development. We do not have a well diversified portfolio of options of tools and platforms for communication due to corporations monopolizing and conspiring together to concentrate power. I do not imagine that this will end positively.

This is nonsense. Web is as open and free as it has ever been. Arguably more so given that the barrier to entry e.g. cost for creating and promoting a site has come down. And we have examples such as Parler and TheDonald.win. You just don't have a right to demand that the Facebook and Apple's of the world help to amplify your voice.

So to be clear: Facebook allowed Trump to win in 2016 but them censoring him in 2020 isn't a concerning form of censorship?

I think we're past the point were we have to admit social media and the tech monopolies aren't just websites anymore.

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Lately I have discovered that progressive web apps can work quite well on mobile devices, to the point that they can be undistinguishable from native apps. I wonder if PWAs will become more common as a result of the divided political spectrum.

off topic, but as a developer, I still have not figured out what is the difference between a website and a "progressive web app". I just don't get why a bunch of different features makes websites any different. It really just sound like a marketing buzzword too me, not backed by any meaningful technical paradigm change. What makes them 'progressive'? To me the problem with webapps in general or (rich internet applica…

It's kinda like when SPAs became popular.

A progressive web app is just a regular website (typically a SPA but not necessarily) that typically takes advantage of a few newer web APIs that can make it behave more native app like when those APIs are supported.

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The government didn't do it. Noone is arresting anyone for group think or saying what they want. People are just kicking them out of their houses. Don't like it? Build your own house, make your own rules. Fund your own cause.

This comic is very relevant to your point:

http://stonetoss.com/comic/build-big/

Don't complain when it starts happening.

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The government didn't do it. Noone is arresting anyone for group think or saying what they want. People are just kicking them out of their houses. Don't like it? Build your own house, make your own rules. Fund your own cause.

The government doesn’t need to do it, since it has been replaced on a lot of matter by corporations. Never in history companies held that much power on people’s life. Arguing for deplatforming because "muh private" is missing the fact democracy emerged to limit the most powerful entity at the time (government). Now that companies are the most powerful element of society, their power needs to be limited as well.

Re: Google Bans Parler from the Google Play Store

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As someone who enjoys technology and liberty this is a very disturbing development. We do not have a well diversified portfolio of options of tools and platforms for communication due to corporations monopolizing and conspiring together to concentrate power. I do not imagine that this will end positively.

CNN is trying to force Fox News off air.

Twitter deletes people who have opinions different than theirs.

Apple is trying to delete a free speech platform.

Google already did.

Biden and Democrats in charge are cheering it on.

Fascism is here and it’s the 'liberal' left.

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