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Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

Aren't these conservative principles? Like Gov shouldn't have any business in private company's affairs?

None of these monstrous corporations would exist in anything resembling their current form without a tremendous amount of regulation that entangles government deeply in the affairs of these private companies. So that ship has sailed, you might say.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Let's ban Parler but we'll keep Twitter, even though the platform is full of messages like this [1] and worse. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210107225836/https://twitter.c...

That tweet is unavailable now. Was it moderated by chance?

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

If wal-mart stops selling a brand of ice cream, is that censorship? Is it censorship that wal-mart doesn't sell playboy in their store? If not, then why is the removal of an app from the app store censorship? The world wide web still exists. Parler is still on the internet. Seems like there should be some acknowledgement that there's a difference between refusing to actively participate in distributing content and ce…

You have Wal-Mart, Target, Wal-greens, CVS, BestBuy, MicroCenter, tons of mom-and-pop stores (until all the world leaders drove all of them to bankruptcy due to COVID)

Say you had two stores: Walmarket and Toget. That's it. That's all you got. Toget stops telling a brand of ice cream and you literally cannot sell it anywhere else other than Toget and Walmarket because someone would have to drive 2 hours out of their way each time to buy your Ice Cream.

You have Android, iOS and PinePhones.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

Turns out planning a coup in plain site is a step too far, and has consequences.

Who could have possibly predicted it?

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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That’s an excuse, not the reason. Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. Mass texts, email chains, WhatsApp, signal, 4chan boards, etc are all there.

>>Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. It definitely helps. Just because people can coordinate using other mediums is not an argument against making it more difficult for them.

Yeah, I've heard this referred to as the "people will find a way to get heroin anyway, so illegalizing heroin production/sale is pointless" argument

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Have you been on the Donald. Win lately? At what point are we allowed to stop people from planning treason?

This is a strange comment to make, are you making an investigation of sorts or do you frequently go on websites of people you politically despise?

> frequently go on websites of people you politically despise

This is why I browse (some threads on) HN

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Censorship - noun the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. It is censorship. But not all censorship is bad.

That's what I saw daily under military dictatorship in South Korea in the 1970s and 80s. My Time magazine would arrive with gaping holes where pages had been cut out. These days the scissors in the US are virtual, but the goal is the same: suppression of political speech and news deemed heretical to one's ideological viewpoint. If you approve of censorship. try China, all the public rhetoric is very clean and faultle…

I think companies should have the right to censor their products in very specific situations, but they should be grilled like they are when it happens so we can debate it with transparency. I am not condoning governments to censor, I think you are reading way too much into my comment.

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Newspapers and magazines have always had a choice who or what to print in their papers. TV and radio stations have always had a choice who or what to air. Why shouldn't social media companies have the same liberties?

Social media companies are protected by Section 230 while newspapers and magazines aren't. If social media companies are going to act like newspapers and magazines then they shouldn't be shielded from liability for their content.

So in other words you want them to remove even more content (no one wants to be held liable for Trump’s tweets)? Sounds pro-censorship to me.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

The purge has been happening for years. I hate how people on HN is praising this. There are literally few alternatives for the average person apart from Google and eyeProducts. I have a PinePhone, but what percentage of America can truly put in the effort to use one? If you cannot install an run your own software on a device, you do not own the device. You cannot praise the removal of Gab or Parlor now and complain l…

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Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

It's all pretty complicated, but one obvious mitigating factor is the ends being pursued by each movement. Rioting aside, BLM is ultimately pushing for justice and equality. There's also a question of blame - many would argue that most of the BLM rioting was provoked by a disproportionate police response. This movement, on the other hand, is quite transparently rooted in white supremacy, and had an explicit goal of t…

> BLM is ultimately pushing for justice and equality.

> This movement, on the other hand, is quite transparently rooted in white supremacy

It's almost like people describe their side in the best possible terms, and the other side in the worst possible terms...

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