Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store • Hacker News Board

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by CodeWriter23 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #18

guscost wrote: post #2

Here is my suggestion for Parler’s new moderation plan, which is what at least Apple is demanding: 1. Illegal content is not allowed. That’s it.

What does illegal content look like? What jurisdiction? Does Parler need to hire a lawyer to make content decisions? When Trump says "we need to fight hard!", is that illegal? What if he says, "Go back to the Capitol and start shooting!"? Is that illegal? FWIW that was our policy at reddit for a long time too. There is a whole lot of nuance to it that is really hard to deal with.

Unbelievable you’re getting downvotes @jedberg, probably one of a handful of people in this conversation with actual hands-on experience.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by jackson1442 » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

Darmody wrote: post #146

Let's ban Parler but we'll keep Twitter, even though the platform is full of messages like this [1] and worse. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20210107225836/https://twitter.c...

Parler made very few attempts to actually moderate their content, at least from what I've seen. That tweet, however, has already been removed. https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1347119992462970880

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by mhh__ » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

systemvoltage wrote: post #21

roberto wrote: post #9

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It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

Aren't these conservative principles? Like Gov shouldn't have any business in private company's affairs?

That depends on what case the C is in. Many self-identifying conservatives do not believe in anything close to a free-market, or freedom in general.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by casefields » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

colinmhayes wrote: post #186

SpaceRaccoon wrote: post #145

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Months of violent rioting in the streets? 2/3rds of democrats believing Russia hacked and changed vote counts in 2016? The hypocrisy is unbelievable. This will not end well.

Source that 2/3 democrats believe russians hacked voting machines? I haven't heard anyone claim that.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by ivojp » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

awillen wrote: post #17

Good for them for not bothering with the half-assed CYA nonsense Apple is doing. "Give us a moderation plan in 24 hours" is just such a ridiculously unmeetable demand (at least if they require that plan to be anything close to actually feasible) that it's just pointless. Just kick them off. And to the people complaining about censorship, this is an app that was literally used to plan a violent attack on the capitol.…

Ok now do Twitter. And Facebook. And Gmail. And the US Postal Service.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by Mountain_Skies » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

mzs wrote: post #99

statement* from google: "In order to protect user safety on Google Play, our longstanding policies require that apps displaying user-generated content have moderation policies and enforcement that removes egregious content like posts that incite violence. All developers agree to these terms and we have reminded Parler of this clear policy in recent months. We're aware of continued posting in the Parler app that seeks…

The irony is that there companies are setting the conditions to incite violence far greater than anything they think they're helping to tamp down.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by im3w1l » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

enkid wrote: post #202

im3w1l wrote: post #95

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Parler is a twitter competitor. After Donald Trump and several other people were banned from Twitter and Facebook, people were thinking about moving over to Parler. After about a day Google and Apple banned Parler from their appstores. Four big tech giants Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter - they are cooperating and coordinating in destroying people they don't like. At this point this fourheaded beast is the most powe…

By people you don't like, you mean the people encouraging and coordinating an assault on the US capitol.

Trump is not the first one this happens to. Alex Jones faced a similar situation. The Gab app was also taken down in coordination.

And besides they were itching to ban Trump before this already. Twitter was very clearly hinting that Trump would be banned the day he was no longer president. This protest just made it happen two weeks early.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by kortilla » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

fassssst wrote: post #205

kortilla wrote: post #12

It’s pretty coincidental that all of these tech companies are having epiphanies simultaneously now that Democrats will control the house/senate/and presidency. The interesting question is whether they are doing it out fear of anti trust action from Democrats or weren’t doing it for the last four years out of fear of Republicans.

It’s simpler than that: intolerance can’t be tolerated.

You mean the intolerance of Apple and Google... or?

That’s such a dumb meme because obviously tons of people disagree on what intolerance is.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by ashtonkem » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:15 AM UTC

jpxw wrote: post #28

roberto wrote: post #9

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It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

You realise that it’s possible for entities outside of the government to censor things, right? That word isn’t only applicable to state actions, and nor should it be.

This line of argument is always going to end up accidentally side-loading authoritarianism into the American system. The logical conclusion is that the government should force Google to carry speech, and that is a bad idea.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by guscost » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 1:16 AM UTC

casefields wrote: post #212

Nacdor wrote: post #150

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I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

These people are a little crazy and this is now a declaration of war by big tech. I really hope they're ready because this is a stupid move in my opinion.

And I thought Trump’s rambling and angry improvised speech before the riot was a stupid move. It just keeps getting crazier.