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Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s

> catalyst More like excuse :)

He incited an insurrection and he still seems to be egging those people on. But people who support the guy would defend him no matter what.

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The threats are no longer hypothetical (or FUD), we've seen what the mislead masses can and will do

Yes people cannot think for themselves, we need to make sure they cannot speak or be near us. If they make their own platform like we tell them to, we'll just ban that too, haha.

You’re right. Everyone is definitely capable of thinking for themselves. No one would ever, say, violently storm the nation’s capitol because they believed propaganda about election fraud.

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It’s pretty coincidental that all of these tech companies are having epiphanies simultaneously now that Democrats will control the house/senate/and presidency. The interesting question is whether they are doing it out fear of anti trust action from Democrats or weren’t doing it for the last four years out of fear of Republicans.

There was an attack on congress on Tuesday. Multiple accounts are talking up similar violence on Parler as we speak. People are calling it out all over the internet.

I mean... what do you want to happen here? The right wing got carte blanche to spread violent rhetoric for years on these platforms in ways that we would have called "terroristic" and "radicalizing" in other contexts. And it went too far. So... do we just ignore it?

I just can't understand how your mind goes to a routine election result and not a failed coup attempt as the reason behind this.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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The threats are no longer hypothetical (or FUD), we've seen what the mislead masses can and will do

Yes people cannot think for themselves, we need to make sure they cannot speak or be near us. If they make their own platform like we tell them to, we'll just ban that too, haha.

I don't need an app to think for myself

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How long will Chrome hold out as a neutral pipe for websites? Does anyone here think it's unthinkable that Google would block parler.com on Chrome? It seemed unthinkable a couple years ago, but at this point I would put even money on Chrome having a "radical" website blacklist within a year.

Google one company but the different parts have different roles. With Google Play, they're the publisher. Google doesn't need to block websites because they have nothing to do with them.

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What does illegal content look like? What jurisdiction? Does Parler need to hire a lawyer to make content decisions? When Trump says "we need to fight hard!", is that illegal? What if he says, "Go back to the Capitol and start shooting!"? Is that illegal? FWIW that was our policy at reddit for a long time too. There is a whole lot of nuance to it that is really hard to deal with.

So do we need a DMCA type thing for courts to file injunctions against illegal content? What is the solution? The fact is any moderation will be subjective and imperfect. How can making more complicated subjective rules help at all?

It is always subjective, the entity in power get to decide the rule, in this case google is the entity in power. Its not enough to have rule that says 'illegal content not allowed', in the case of play store it has to be 'illegal content (according to google) not allowed'

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It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

Of course it’s censorship. Censorship has nothing to do with who is doing it. Whether a private company suppresses communication or the government does it, it’s still censorship.

So the government should be able to force your business to do something against your will? That doesn't sound like free market of which USA, and particularly conservatives, are so proud of.

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How long will Chrome hold out as a neutral pipe for websites? Does anyone here think it's unthinkable that Google would block parler.com on Chrome? It seemed unthinkable a couple years ago, but at this point I would put even money on Chrome having a "radical" website blacklist within a year.

I give it 6 months to a year until Chrome implements a "harmful content" page you'll have to click through to get to these sites.

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

Newspapers and magazines have always had a choice who or what to print in their papers. TV and radio stations have always had a choice who or what to air. Why shouldn't social media companies have the same liberties?

Social media companies are protected by Section 230 while newspapers and magazines aren't. If social media companies are going to act like newspapers and magazines then they shouldn't be shielded from liability for their content.
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