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Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

Have you been on the Donald. Win lately? At what point are we allowed to stop people from planning treason?

Agreed. A lot of folk on HN right now are having difficulty identifying or naming treason and sedition.

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How long will Chrome hold out as a neutral pipe for websites? Does anyone here think it's unthinkable that Google would block parler.com on Chrome? It seemed unthinkable a couple years ago, but at this point I would put even money on Chrome having a "radical" website blacklist within a year.

But that wouldn't affect forks such as Brave, would it? Or maybe they would engineer in some way to force the forks to use a Google blacklist or else....

If a website isn't accessible on Chrome, Edge, or Firefox, it's effectively deplatformed. It's a tiny fraction of the population who even knows HOW to sideload an app.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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How long will Chrome hold out as a neutral pipe for websites? Does anyone here think it's unthinkable that Google would block parler.com on Chrome? It seemed unthinkable a couple years ago, but at this point I would put even money on Chrome having a "radical" website blacklist within a year.

Chrome is open source. It would just get forked.

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post #17

Good for them for not bothering with the half-assed CYA nonsense Apple is doing. "Give us a moderation plan in 24 hours" is just such a ridiculously unmeetable demand (at least if they require that plan to be anything close to actually feasible) that it's just pointless. Just kick them off. And to the people complaining about censorship, this is an app that was literally used to plan a violent attack on the capitol.…

I wonder which apps were used to plan the nation wide riots over the summer?

Or was that a dream?

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Censorship - noun the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. It is censorship. But not all censorship is bad.

> But not all censorship is bad. pretty much all dictators agree with you on that.

I know if I was a dictator, I would definitely agree with it!

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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It’s pretty coincidental that all of these tech companies are having epiphanies simultaneously now that Democrats will control the house/senate/and presidency. The interesting question is whether they are doing it out fear of anti trust action from Democrats or weren’t doing it for the last four years out of fear of Republicans.

I don’t agree. The President was just caught red handed asking Georgia to make up votes for him, and he caused an attack on the US Congress. People are actually dead because of the things he said — inciting an overthrow of the government.

Even our allied governments are saying he caused the riots. You can’t say the entire world is wrong, every single human being is deep state.

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post #28
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

You realise that it’s possible for entities outside of the government to censor things, right? That word isn’t only applicable to state actions, and nor should it be.

Real censorship means that the government prosecutes you for speech, no matter where or how or to whom are you saying it. That was happening in parts of Europe from 1945 to 1990. This what is happening in USA right now is nowhere near that. It's just free market. If you're banned from a certain platform you can reach your audience in another way. No one is censoring your speech. It's just a certain company not wanting to serve a particular user. If it was actual censorship then you wouldn't be able to even print it on paper and distribute in your neighborhood.

Free speech != guaranteed access to a company providing access to a big audience

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parler has terms of service that prohibit calls for violence. My guess is that the moderators (I'm one) simply can't keep up with the volume.

If you run a social network and can’t keep up with moderation for calls for violence you shouldn’t be allowed to be in business. This goes for the big tech companies as well. “It’s hard” is not an excuse.

Yes, I am a big fan of the "it is hard is not an excuse" standard.

I would like it applied to advertisers using tech platforms to evade all sorts of anti-discrimination regulations in housing and employment too!

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post #80
post #23

All this at the same time? Did they have a Godfather-esque technocrat meeting?

Maybe, but it’s also possible that these are all responses to the events of Wednesday, and responses to other’s responses to Wednesday.

Or to the results of Tuesday's runoff election in Georgia, which gave Democrats complete control of the legislature.

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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post #25

It’s pretty coincidental that all of these tech companies are having epiphanies simultaneously now that Democrats will control the house/senate/and presidency. The interesting question is whether they are doing it out fear of anti trust action from Democrats or weren’t doing it for the last four years out of fear of Republicans.

It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s

It's so comical that sibling comments are unironically missing the connection that it's basically indistinguishable from satire. I really can't tell.
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