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Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by SR2Z »

koolba wrote: post #399
nicbou wrote: post #11

Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off. The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right. We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the populat…

They’ve been shifting the Overton window for years. Are against open borders? Then you’re a racist. Are against abortion? Then you’re a misogynist. Are for a pro worker visa policy and tariffs on imports? Then you’re a nationalist (which isn’t even a bad word but they make it sound like one) Are for the right to bear arms? Then you’re an uneducated hillbilly. Are for churches and other religious institutions to decid…

> Are against open borders? Then you’re a racist.

Find me one Democrat with actual power advocating for open borders.

And it's not as if the speech used by xenophobes is free of racial overtones and dogwhistles, either.

> Are against abortion? Then you’re a misogynist.

If you are against a woman's right to do what they please to their own body, you have to give compelling evidence for why. There is no such evidence.

> (which isn’t even a bad word but they make it sound like one)

Because it is a word that historically was used by people who started a lot of wars and were fixated on who/what was _truly_ part of their nation.

The "they" in "they've been shifting" is a strong majority of the people around you who now value racial inclusion and self-autonomy far more highly than ever before. This is a problem of values and pretending that all of them are created equal.

Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by lovecg »

o_p wrote: post #237
lovecg wrote: post #186

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You can... buy a different phone?

Or the goverment could defend me from corporations leveraging their power against consumers?. When companies are clearly having so much power they are influencing media and political opinion its not just their private property like the backyard of a house

Once we live in the world where the iPhone is the only option then yes, you can make the case that it’s anti-consumer.

Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by jrochkind1 »

nicbou wrote: post #11

Someone brought an interesting perspective in another thread and I can't shake it off. The other side keeps deplatforming them. Their legal cases are rejected. The mainstream media refuses to take them seriously. We're not even listening to them, because it's science and they're *ists if they disagree. We're not debating anymore. We just assume we're right. We are slowly squeezing a significant segment of the populat…

yeah, i agree, this simply isn't going to work.

Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by sjg007 »

Ancapistani wrote: post #458
gmac wrote: post #234

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> Their legal cases are rejected. Not-an-American here. When their cases seek to disenfranchise large swathes of voters based on zero evidence, what’s the alternative?

It’s slightly more complicated than that. First, the position of the plaintiffs of those cases is that the actions of the “other half” have effectively disenfranchised them. If disenfranchisement is the issue at hand, it follows that one should investigate when someone claims to have been disenfranchised. Second, every case that I’ve followed up on has been denied on the grounds of standing. My understanding is that…

There is no evidence.

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Post by lanstin »

Ancapistani wrote: post #458
gmac wrote: post #234

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> Their legal cases are rejected. Not-an-American here. When their cases seek to disenfranchise large swathes of voters based on zero evidence, what’s the alternative?

It’s slightly more complicated than that. First, the position of the plaintiffs of those cases is that the actions of the “other half” have effectively disenfranchised them. If disenfranchisement is the issue at hand, it follows that one should investigate when someone claims to have been disenfranchised. Second, every case that I’ve followed up on has been denied on the grounds of standing. My understanding is that…

Evidence has not been presented but it has been solicited. When the courts asked for evidence the President’s lawyers have reduced their claims from fraud or illegal voting to irregularities unsupported by evidence which was asked for. E.g. the case where they said R observers were kept out and then they had to admit that R observers where present. The judge confirmed that and then found for the defense.

Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

gnusty_gnurc wrote: post #446
glglwty wrote: post #432

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Doesn't potentially cutting off millions of customers help with the course of decentralization though?

It doesn’t seem like the left values discourse. I don’t know if they care to respond to market incentive if that’s what you’re suggesting. This has been apparent for some time and is a complete reversal from when conservatives were the conformist squares policing speech and society broadly.

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Post by Tokkemon »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #468
spoonjim wrote: post #379

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No, it's not surprising that they explode in unpredictable ways. That's why you need the tanks and the guns for when they do, not just let them run roughshod over the basic concept of fact-based reality.

>That's why you need the tanks and the guns for when they do, not just let them run roughshod over the basic concept of fact-based reality. I wonder if you spent the summer complaining about police militarization? Fact-based reality... IDK man. How would you ever know? The number of upvotes you get on your post?

What are you actually saying?

Re: Apple has threatened to ban Parler from the App Store

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Post by lanstin »

Ancapistani wrote: post #465
e40 wrote: post #414

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I saw a comment on twitter which went like this: What do you expect when Fox News and many other right-wing outlets are just lying all the time? When lawyers for DJT go into court and admit there is no fraud and then go out to the steps of the courthouse and give a press conference saying there is fraud and it must stop. Fox News, et al are talking about this non-stop since the election. Just think of all the people…

For what it is worth, the vast majority of those who would be labeled as “far right” here on HN see Fox News as part of the problem, not a source of truth.

Much more so since the election.
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