Who is going to get banned for the BLM protestor that shot and killed a Trump supporter?
Is this a parody or do you actually have nouns like names that you can use?
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#712Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…
Group A fails to address the fact that emotionally loaded speech severely dulls the rationality of most listeners.
Group B requires someone to take a stand on what the different types of speech are, how we recognize them, and how each should be handled, and also what the threshold of proof for untrue statements should be.
I think group A is ideal as long as the speech holds a certain level of rationality, but that limitation sort of moves it into group B since it's now subjective.
I think it boils down to: If we are unable to agree on even the simplest rules for our discourse there's no way to prevent the discourse from collapsing.
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#71374 million voters. This is not going to play out well. There's really no coming back from this moment, the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever. Edit: I mean this in the way Snowden tweeted yesterday, it will be interesting how this plays out for better or worse, but it is a monumental policy shift that will be a date marked in history books.
> the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever The president has spent weeks trying to delegitimize the results of a democratic election, culminating yesterday by inciting a mob to de-rail the ratifying of the results, but it’s the banning of said president from a social media site that has changed American democracy forever. Right.
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#714Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…
> You should counter bad arguments with better arguments We've witnessed the fallacy of this argument. It assumes a level of rationality that has been proven to be unreasonable to assume. The problem isn't that "better" arguments aren't reaching people. Rather, we have watched people exercise an incredible ability to discard overwhelming evidence and embrace narratives that have literally zero evidence to support the…
> Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad.
We've also witnessed the fallacy of this argument. It assumes that there is an authority that we can all trust to be objective and not a vested interested that either ignores or skews evidence and narratives one way or the other out of self-interest. Who should be the ones determining what is "true"?
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#715This sets a terrible precedent. If you believe in democracy, you should let the public choose what they want or don't want to hear. Now we have Jack Dorsey controlling the public discourse. If you don't trust the public, you really don't believe in democracy.
They already can. No one is forcing you to use Twitter. There are plenty of other platforms, or you can even... wait for it, this is such a radical idea... host your own website.
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#717We don’t have to imagine. #BLM incited many riots which killed many people, what action did Twitter take there?
Suspended: https://twitter.com/blm
That's not BLM's account. This is:
https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter
For proof that's official, see https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement-from-black-lives-matt...
It's not suspended.
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#718It's a purge, had just read 5 minutes ago that they had suspended Michael Flynn's account, now I'm seeing that FB has decided to ban a community of over half a million people [1] supposedly because their political opinions are not in the best interest of FB the company right at this moment. Of course, I had to get all that info from thedonald.win because almost no-one else is talking about this. Coincidentally, I als…
> have grown up as a kid in Ceausescu's one-party state Romania and I have to tell you that this doesn't look good.
As an American, I can tell you that unfortunately nobody on either side will be willing to heed your warning here. In our polarized climate, everyone seems to think that they can do autocracy better.
I've grown up around a lot immigrants from Romania and other former-dictatorships and they're all shouting to anyone who will listen right now about how dangerous this all is. My ex-Soviet coworkers are discussing where in Europe they're going to relocate to this year.
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#719Comparing today's media, to the media of old - where they colluded to hide FDR couldn't walk because of the shame/and attacks it'd lead to now, where Tech companies overtook print media and now themselves control the pitchforks and direct anger at the masses. 1984 Two minutes of hate is real, so very real, and it's quite sad how most people welcomed this into the world. I've deleted my social media, twitters years be…
>I hold no opinion on Trump Utterly baffling and genuinely inconceivable. My imagination is running wild trying to imagine what sort of person you might be, assuming you are being honest here.
IS it wrong to always be skeptical and paranoid about the world, the media, the government, the tech companies/any company promising a good thing?
This isn't a new feeling, idea or such - there's always been a counter culture and I enjoy and love tech. I never got into Twitter, and the more accessible tech has become, it seems to have become eternal summer.
Which, on one hand is good - tech is accessible, government "can" be more transparent then ever.
But is it, really? Go back to any presidency generation and you can see the same questions. It doesn't matter if it's the red scare, the pacifist of USA not jumping into WW2 until bommbed at pearl harbor (but had operations in Sino China.) and etc -
That's another issue here, the moving and adaption of wrong think, and tribes forming based if you think one alike - there's so many arguments from how you value money, what is money, what is a good president, if the color of your skin matter, what you do, how you spend your free time, if you allow people to peer onto your social presence, etc
It's just alarming, the slippery slope of internet adaption/culture the past decade really has ushered a dystopia.
But, it seems, according to you, that is "utterly baffling and genuinely inconceivable" where it goes to show, if you don't follow tribe mentality, you are labelled pariah, and then what, excommunicated for questioning the status quo?
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