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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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handmodel wrote: post #65
ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by awak3ning »

Very disturbing example of censorship and de-platforming. The rationale for permanent ban seems both reactionary and subjective.

The scant analysis provided under the "Assessment" stretches the words and context of the tweet to imbue it with the most uncharitable meaning possible.

This should be dismaying to non-political and political citizens alike, as well as supporters and non-supporters of this individual. I believe this because subduing your opposition with force (whether it be physical or social) is never an honorable way to triumph.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by scythe »

ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

You're evaluating the ban in terms of Twitter as a moral regulator of discussion, not as a media company seeking to control a maximal share of the discourse. Trump was allowed to use the platform because media companies used it to follow him and Twitter wants everyone at CNN and FOX to be reading Twitter. Trump was always going to be permanently banned from Twitter when he was no longer politically relevant simply because he's broken the rules literally hundreds of times. It simply happens that he finally ranted himself into irrelevance (Facebook's ban helps here) and Twitter realized that they could push the ban up two weeks and snag a bit of the spotlight.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by dionian »

handmodel wrote: post #65
ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

I've not seen a source for this claim

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by boc »

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #544
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #359

> The type of person that stormed the capitol will perceive this as an escalation. Who cares? The type of person that stormed the Capitol has shown they are impervious to reality. Time to stop the appeasement.

Rhetoric like this is why they stormed the capitol.

Stop treating these people like they are victims. They used force to attempt to stop the lawful, democratic transition of power by the joint session of the US Congress. The are traitors to this nation, full stop.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by rufus_foreman »

mkl wrote: post #85
copperwater69 wrote: post #12

Weird they quote the tweets which are so 'dangerous'

In isolation they aren't. Immediately following the quoted tweets they explain: "Due to the ongoing tensions in the United States, and an uptick in the global conversation in regards to the people who violently stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, these two Tweets must be read in the context of broader events in the country and the ways in which the President’s statements can be mobilized by different audiences, i…

> In isolation they aren't

Hold on there, we're still talking about Twitter, right?

A content business that limits the length of a statement on its platform to 280 characters is now arguing that statements on its platform must be read in a broader context?

Seriously?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by [deleted] »

handmodel wrote: post #65
ve55 wrote: post #44

This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

I think the logic isn't that hard. Person says bad things to whip up a mob - Twitter unsure to take him seriously or literally. Mob actually materializes and several people die - Twitter sure they now have to take him literally

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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by trumpthrow »

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #544
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #359

> The type of person that stormed the capitol will perceive this as an escalation. Who cares? The type of person that stormed the Capitol has shown they are impervious to reality. Time to stop the appeasement.

Rhetoric like this is why they stormed the capitol.

Why did antifa storm the federal building in Portland and wound. Where were the pitchforks?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Post by neaden »

rattlesnakedave wrote: post #544
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #359

> The type of person that stormed the capitol will perceive this as an escalation. Who cares? The type of person that stormed the Capitol has shown they are impervious to reality. Time to stop the appeasement.

Rhetoric like this is why they stormed the capitol.

No, rhetoric from the president is why they stormed the capital.
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