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Note that accounts such as Iran's Kamenei or those associated with groups in Pakistan, which have called for the destruction of Israel, are not banned https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir

Yet, Twitter, FB, and YT are quick to censor MEMRI and PalWatch, which actively report on vile speeches around the Arab and Muslim world about how Jews are descended from pigs and dogs, etc., the Holocaust was a hoax, on and on. Because "hate speech". Memri in particular, a non-profit translation service, had hundreds of its videos taken down, footage of these speeches and broadcasts, a valuable resource chopped off…

In the early-to-mid 20th century, the phrase politically correct was used to describe strict adherence to a range of ideological orthodoxies within politics. In 1934, the New York Times reported that Nazi Germany was granting reporting permits "only to pure 'Aryans' whose opinions are politically correct". [0]

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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This has been an embarrassing incident to those in power because it made them look weak. But calling a populist movement with millions of supporters, terrorists is very short sighted. It will only accelerate the fire. The left soon will control all three branches of government, after an election that many people question, has been simultaneously advocating for censorship of its political adversaries, more draconian c…

> The left soon will control all three branches of government

...the supreme court is majority conservative and has 3 trump appointees. Senate and congress are together one branch (the legislative branch).

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Twitter waited just long enough, to finish profiting off the last 4 years of rage from him, to finally do something.

I have lost all faith in Twitter leadership and engineering to have allowed this to get to this point for pure greed reasons.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…

> You should counter bad arguments with better arguments We've witnessed the fallacy of this argument. It assumes a level of rationality that has been proven to be unreasonable to assume. The problem isn't that "better" arguments aren't reaching people. Rather, we have watched people exercise an incredible ability to discard overwhelming evidence and embrace narratives that have literally zero evidence to support the…

And what makes you think that forcefully silencing such narratives will make those people change their minds? That strategy is also hopelessly naive.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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What good does Twitter do for society? Is it pure entertainment? That's all news is for most people. There is little to no actionable intelligence in nearly all stories we read. I don't think we would let evil inc in the stock market. Isn't there rules about businesses whose main selling point is access to foreign demoralization forces? People's brains are scrambled. Every time I leave twitter I feel stupider for reading it.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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It's a purge, had just read 5 minutes ago that they had suspended Michael Flynn's account, now I'm seeing that FB has decided to ban a community of over half a million people [1] supposedly because their political opinions are not in the best interest of FB the company right at this moment. Of course, I had to get all that info from thedonald.win because almost no-one else is talking about this. Coincidentally, I als…

As an American, I will tell you the tweet author you quote is not a reliable narrator.

There are lots of non-reliable narrators on FB and Twitter (I ironically liked a witch's Suggested Page on FB just two days ago), that's no valid reason to ban them.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…

> This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past.

I don't blame them. Would you rather ban a vindictive US president or an outgoing, lame duck US president in his final days of office? Besides, regardless of how you feel about him, he's one of the main reasons Twitter is still relevant today. If they banned him sooner, they would have lost a ton of traffic.

To be clear, I am not for or against Twitter. I'm just making sense of their rationale.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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I am loving people who don't understand that they are literally supporting billionaires while claiming to be anti-corporate resistance. Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." I am still a…

2020 (and probably 2018) is when the Democrat Party became the party of billionaires and digerati, while the Republican party represented the working class, manufacturers, farmers, etc. Most rank-and-file private unions (plus police and fire) polled strongly for Trump and Republicans. It's almost a 180 turnaround from the days when the Democrats represented the "common working man" and the Republicans were the party…

The democrats, at least since the 70's have always represented urban populations and the "new money" AKA wall St and now IT, while the republicans pandered to the "old money" (oil,...) and more rural, or traditional areas.

Both parties work for different kind of billionaires. For instance, most of the problems that led to the 2008 housing crisis were the direct consequence of Bill Clinton's policies when it comes to deregulating Wall St, so it was a bit funny to hear all these democrats trying to look tough on bankers when they were directly responsible for the situation as legislators. But that's the game, that's politics.

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