The cyberpunk future is here - a giant corporation that doesn't even make money is censoring the sitting president.
All we can do is laugh.
Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
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#302Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…
>Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? Well as far as politics is concerned.. the US Government (and other governments) should make their own twitter like platforms which every active representative has an account, and ANYTHING (barring pure illegal) can be posted. It doesn't even need to have an actual user base, it can just be somewhere…
This exists. The government provides the President, the executive departments, and each Senator and Representative with their own websites. They may issue any kind of communications there, including setting up blogs or microblogs.
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#303This has been an embarrassing incident to those in power because it made them look weak. But calling a populist movement with millions of supporters, terrorists is very short sighted. It will only accelerate the fire.
The left soon will control all three branches of government, after an election that many people question, has been simultaneously advocating for censorship of its political adversaries, more draconian civil rights removals under the guise of COVID. The inevitably resulting destruction of more people's livelihoods will create more desperate people. I hope you realize where this is all going. Because its obvious more people will be revolting if this continues, and will organize to resist. Censorship and oppression is not the answer. Letting people voice their grievances, is the last peaceful outlet before actual violence.
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#304Yes, I think this is actually it. After he basically commanded them to "Stop the Steal", I said that Facebook and Twitter would ban him. I also said that nuclear war was also on the table. If he is so unAmerican that he would actually tell his mob to attack the Capitol buildings, he really doesn't care about America at all. Being as petulant as he is, nuclear war is very much on the table. That's how crazy this situa…
I don't think the term "unamerican" should be used seriously. It has no strict definition and is often used to encourage an "Us vs Them" mentality and brings to mind the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.
I believe tribalism is a vestigial trait most harmful to modern humanity and it should be discouraged whenever possible. We have changed our environment faster than evolution can keep up, so we are going to have to use our conscious minds to compensate if we are to stand a chance at long-term survival. This needn't be limited to genetic modification. Society can be modified, and it starts with one mind.
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#305We don’t have to imagine. #BLM incited many riots which killed many people, what action did Twitter take there?
Suspended: https://twitter.com/blm
Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
#306Does anybody have a solution to the bigger underlying question of de-platforming and censorship on online platforms? As far as I can tell, there are two general viewpoints: a) Censorship is bad, free speech is good. You should counter bad arguments with better arguments. b) There are types of speech, which are proven to lead to violence in the long-run. Also, some things can be proven as untrue. Lies are bad. I have…
> You should counter bad arguments with better arguments We've witnessed the fallacy of this argument. It assumes a level of rationality that has been proven to be unreasonable to assume. The problem isn't that "better" arguments aren't reaching people. Rather, we have watched people exercise an incredible ability to discard overwhelming evidence and embrace narratives that have literally zero evidence to support the…
The alternative, which is to prevent the spread of "bad arguments" is dystopian
Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
#30774 million voters. This is not going to play out well. There's really no coming back from this moment, the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever. Edit: I mean this in the way Snowden tweeted yesterday, it will be interesting how this plays out for better or worse, but it is a monumental policy shift that will be a date marked in history books.
You say this like its the first time Americans have had to learn to live with having lost a federal election. Half the country is disappointed every four years. Starting to make concessions to terrorists because they got really upset after being lied to repeatedly makes no sense.
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#308The justification they give is ridiculous.
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#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, they were going to ban him on January 20, 2021 at 12pm no matter what. The last few days just escalated the timeframe.
I have yet to see a single place where he condoned violence. And everyone was totally okay with Dems storming the Senate 2 years ago during the Kavanaugh hearings. Twitter allowed all the Antifa accounts to stay on their site. Even the Iranian ruler who calls for assassination is allowed.
You don't have to say "I hereby incite you all to commit violence" to be found guilty of inciting violence.
Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
#3104 years of fascism and inciting violence is all it took. This is far too little too late and Twitter is clearly complicit.
As Trump is the President of the United States, knowing what he says is in the public's interest - until the end which is reached nowadays. That's why this action happened now and not much earlier.
But still, the action happened on political basis. This feels something I used see happening in Eastern Block or USSR some 40 years ago.