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Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by kubanczyk »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #6

I switched to Signal way before. And then Elon Musk recommended Signal to all and sundry on Twitter. And then that got retweeted by Jack Dorsey. Now..I am a little worried. Do I want anything that has Jack’s paw prints on it. Since he and Zuckerberg turned up like creepy ideological twins at the senate hearings, I can’t tell them apart. The first question on the Reddit AMA resonates. WhatsApp was great before FB boug…

> WhatsApp was great before FB bought that out. Who is to say it won’t repeat with Signal and someone else?

We need a protocol with competing federated servers. It's old news: Matrix, XMPP, IRC, e-mail.

Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by eznzt »

tethys wrote: post #15

Why are they making such a big secret about their user numbers? https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/kt91qk/signal_p...

Judging by the amount of people on my contacts list who are on Signal, I have a theory.

Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by searchableguy »

eznzt wrote: post #23
tethys wrote: post #15

Why are they making such a big secret about their user numbers? https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/kt91qk/signal_p...

Judging by the amount of people on my contacts list who are on Signal, I have a theory.

What is it? Spill the beans.

Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by soupson »

All, Signal is a 501c3 nonprofit. Your company probably matches donations. If they don't, they are eligible to be added to your company's portal. I encourage you to throw some of your wealth their way and take the extra step to get matching. This is important.

Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by oh_sigh »

searchableguy wrote: post #24
eznzt wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Judging by the amount of people on my contacts list who are on Signal, I have a theory.

What is it? Spill the beans.

I think OP is implying that there may be more beans in the can to be spilled than there are signal users.

Probably signal occupies a far greater mind share than it's userbase actually warrants. If they say they have 10000 DAUs, more people will write it off as worthless rather than he interested in trying it.

Re: Signal AMA on Reddit

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Post by skinkestek »

r00fus wrote: post #13
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #6

I switched to Signal way before. And then Elon Musk recommended Signal to all and sundry on Twitter. And then that got retweeted by Jack Dorsey. Now..I am a little worried. Do I want anything that has Jack’s paw prints on it. Since he and Zuckerberg turned up like creepy ideological twins at the senate hearings, I can’t tell them apart. The first question on the Reddit AMA resonates. WhatsApp was great before FB boug…

Did WhatsApp release their protocol openly with an open source reference client/server? Or did I miss that part? Having an exit plan makes me less concerned about a centralized service - if FB/TWT/etc buy Signal many parties are strongly incentivized to fork the code and provide migration paths.

WhatsApp had some real issues and then it seemed they cleaned it up.

It seems every mainstream researcher now agree that the message delivery part of WhatsApps is now trustworthy.

That said the metadata and incentives story is about as bad as it can get[1] and in the backup department your chats can be uploaded wholesale to iCloud and/or Google Cloud if one of your contacts from the same conversations enable cloud backup.

[1]: Owned by Facebook and they shut off the revenue stream so the only way they can make money from it is by squeezing it of the metadata they get or introduce ads.

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