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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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I've traveled to countries before whose offices of government are behind very large fences, protected by unfriendly looking men standing behind heavy machine guns in armored vehicles – and the guide books are very clear that you are not to take photos of them. I much prefer the approach taken in the USA, where our offices of government are accessible to the people that the government serves. It's very good that I can…

As a huge democrat (lower case d) I totally agree. Locking down the Capitol is antithetical to the notion of open democracy. Lawmakers and the law making process needs to be physically accessible by the People. This was what the Founders intended. Of course there is some risk here and Jefferson himself noted this. That’s the price we pay for living in an open and transparent society. While I don’t condone or support…

Compare a similar issue with schools; in the 80s, teenagers left their guns in their cars while they went to class. Now, schools are basically a rights-free zone.

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Or everything from everybody. We just don't know.

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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> belonged to a conference room and was used for presentations Yikes. My first though was - oh this should be no big deal chances are there are good policies in place for laptops that go home with people. Then I realized it is a shared/central machine which means it probably has the most effed up and relaxed security in the fleet, post-it notes with passwords taped to the palm rests, and god knows what else. IT depar…

If it’s a shared machine for projecting notes, chances are it has nothing stored locally.

Except cookies for a whole bunch of websites. Maybe even saved passwords in the browser, etc.

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For those downvoting this comment, here's a source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-si...

Hilarious, but definitely not a spy. The Russians aren't so amateur as to send an undercover agent to the US who can't speak English. If they missed the opportunity at the Capitol the other day to plant listening devices though, they must be kicking themselves now.

You say that, but they have had spies being exposed for a lot of stupid reasons. Like having their address on driving licenses be the FSB headquarters to avoid getting traffic tickets.

Also, it seems entirely possible to me that they would do that not for the purposes of spying, but to sow chaos.

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My personal views aside, this is off-topic.

It is only off topic because of the title used by the person posting it. My comment was directly based off the linked article.

Ok. At the present time, the Reuters article at https://www.reuters.com/article/BigStory12/idUSKBN29D2HA does not have mention of safeguards to prevent Donald Trump from launching a nuclear attack. Did something change in the article?

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They should beef up security. And keep it open. And not so obvious. The simple fact of the matter is that a violent riot stormed the capitol building and nearly overwhelmed local forces. Congress asked for extra help and it wasn't provided. Governors asked if they could send in the guard to help and the man whom stoked the riot gave no permission. It's a fucking miracle that January 6th wasn't one of the worst days i…

Um, the police waved them through. It was in cooperation with Capitol police. No 'overwhelming' necessary. Which is worrisome in a whole nother way. https://twitter.com/bumbera_steven/status/134727096998817382... video

Look at the videos, no waving through going on, quite the opposite. One woman was shot by police and died.

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It's not murder if it's legal. If you don't want to get shot, don't invade the seat of government during a constitutionally prescribed transition of power, break through a barricade, ignore a cop's orders and approach a cop pointing his gun at you. Hard, I know.

This is almost exactly the same argument that police defenders make when the police shoot an unarmed minority individual in any random city.

I'd agree that police defenders often use the rhetoric of "approaching a cop with his gun drawn" or "being somewhere you shouldn't," but surely we can make a distinction between those killed in public areas versus this woman who was trespassing in a very important federal facility, specifically to impede a very important government procedure.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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I've traveled to countries before whose offices of government are behind very large fences, protected by unfriendly looking men standing behind heavy machine guns in armored vehicles – and the guide books are very clear that you are not to take photos of them. I much prefer the approach taken in the USA, where our offices of government are accessible to the people that the government serves. It's very good that I can…

They should beef up security. And keep it open. And not so obvious. The simple fact of the matter is that a violent riot stormed the capitol building and nearly overwhelmed local forces. Congress asked for extra help and it wasn't provided. Governors asked if they could send in the guard to help and the man whom stoked the riot gave no permission. It's a fucking miracle that January 6th wasn't one of the worst days i…

They should have appropriate security when large events are going on outside. But I sure hope we do not see barricades between representatives and their constituents on a normal day. Democracies rely on trust in both directions.

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Wasn't a protest, it was an attempt at a coup. And the president set the game to easy level.

> attempt at a coup You have a very very low bar for what you think an attempted coup was.

Who knows what Trump was attempting. He should definitely be investigated.

But the riot was a riot. There was no organization and no attempt to take the government and rule it. It was vandalism.

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