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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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>Their sources include the content of speeches made by the President of the United States, news anchors and journalists of conversatively-biased news, and perhaps most importantly, peers they trust liking and sharing those same speeches and articles with them as a stamp of acceptance. Their sources also include the statements and behaviors of news anchors and journalists and politicians and political activists and ot…

> tell me how the right could possibly believe anything else. On the one hand we have only the word of a known liar and his band of sycophants. On the other we have the sworn testimony and/or judgments of literally thousands of election officials and judges, including from states with Republican legislatures (Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona). Maybe the "right" should get out of their bubble and join everyone else.

I don't think you read my comment. We have much more than the word of Trump and his "sycophants".

We know, and no one disputes, that the left and some individuals on the right want Trump out of power very badly. We don't need Trump to tell us that, they have said so themselves, loudly, for the past 5 years.

We also know, and no one disputes, that the election officials in a number of key areas have their jobs because the local elected Democrats want them to be there. We don't need Trump to tell us that. We know it because elected officials ultimately decide who works for the government, and the elected officials in these areas have virtually all been Democrats for decades.

We also know, and no one disputes, that significant restrictions were imposed on election observers that did not exist in previous elections, such as requiring them to keep 6 feet away from election workers. We don't need Trump to tell us that, we saw pictures and videos of observers being forced to sit far enough away from workers that they could not plausibly do any meaningful observing.

We therefore know, and no one disputes, that local election officials had the means, motive, and opportunity to bias the election against Trump. We don't need Trump to tell us that.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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OP likely posts to the site regularly. An thinks the site is an excellent place full of patriots that just so happens to want to stop an evil ring of pedophiles that just so happen to be filled with all of Trump's political enemies.

You can look up the stats yourself. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win Over the last 90 days it has gone from a global Alexa Rank of 6000, to 2400. And is apparent about 400 in the US. In my subjective opinion that is a large amount of growth.

you mean to tell me a well known place that crazy people congreate and organize to plan treason and insurrection in plain sight gets more traffic when the President calls for the overturning of a democratic election... who would have thought

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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> tell me how the right could possibly believe anything else. On the one hand we have only the word of a known liar and his band of sycophants. On the other we have the sworn testimony and/or judgments of literally thousands of election officials and judges, including from states with Republican legislatures (Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona). Maybe the "right" should get out of their bubble and join everyone else.

I don't think you read my comment. We have much more than the word of Trump and his "sycophants". We know, and no one disputes, that the left and some individuals on the right want Trump out of power very badly. We don't need Trump to tell us that, they have said so themselves, loudly, for the past 5 years. We also know, and no one disputes, that the election officials in a number of key areas have their jobs because…

> We have much more than the word of Trump and his "sycophants".

Prove it in court or shut up. Seriously, it's that simple. Don't spam us with links and tell us to "look at the evidence". That's what the courts are for.

If Trump is so certain that he's right, he should say all he's saying under oath. Surely he's brave enough to do that right?

You can choose to believe in shadowy conspiracies of "Democrat officials" and "left-leaning Republicans". That's your right. But compared to that complex story, "liar continues lying" is far more likely.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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“I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be when people realize that this is a policy that they defend" - Nancy Pelosi

"If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere." - Maxine Waters

Notice how this is advocating the use of free speech? Notice the lack of violent words like "attack" "battle" "combat" "fight" etc? Do you notice just how different this is than the rhetoric employed by Trump, Guiliani, etc. recently?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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You're either being willfully ignorant, or arguing in bad faith. Calling for your people to all organize outside of the capitol building, claiming that the election was fraudulent without providing evidence, and then telling the active terrorists "we love you" should be sufficient evidence for you.

You are making assumptions on what was in President Trump's brain from a few short tweets. The white house is on the opposite side of the mall as the congress building. How do you know he wasn't saying "we love you" to the huge turnout of people gathered around the Washington monument right near the white house? How do you know he was specifically praising the tiny minority of the protestors that broke into congress?

The President is responsible for his words and actions, not solely his feelings and thoughts. If he can't effectively communicate his intention to the point he 'accidentally' whips is supporters into a seditious frenzy that makes him unfit for office.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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No. When it comes to elections, the burden of proof should always be on those conducting the election that it was done fairly and transparently. Especially if rules weren't followed to the letter of the law. Moreso where procedures were changed by someone other than the legislature.

Yes. Innocent until proven guilty. If you are claiming an election was conducted illegitimately then you are accusing multiple election officials of fraud. This requires evidence, something the Trump legal team didn’t have.

Elections are not criminal proceedings.

Even civil suits only require a "preponderance of evidence."

But elections are not court actions.

The results (not the overturning) of elections must be believed to be fair with almost certainly, especially by the losing side.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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>It makes sense that a toxic environment will turn off people in the long run, and most well intentioned people (ie the majority of Reddit, Google, or FB employees) want to run a platform that adds value and is not a cesspool. I don't think this is supported by the evidence. The evidence: the current state of Twitter, Facebook, etc. None of them have the necessary level of moderation and until they do, they will cont…

There is not enough people in the world to moderate social media.

Then it shouldn't exist in this form. Either create a social network structured in such a way that it can be moderated (not my job to figure how) or make them illegal.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Show me one source that proves that the trump supporters were “out for blood.” The point of the protest was not to “take the capital by force.” That’s cartoonish and unrealistic. The point was to express disapproval of the election results. Where do you get your information from? Sicknick died as a result of a blood clot in his brain. His death was not the direct result of any protestors actions.

Show you a source that says the people who murdered someone were out for blood? You say he died due to a blood clot in his brain, but the police statement says that he died due to injuries sustained while physically engaging with protestors, and a homicide investigation is open. Not literally everyone was there to take the capitol, obviously. But that was the point for many people. This was entirely predictable. See…

> Why bring guns and zip ties if you're not there for violence?

Got it, so you have no evidence they were out for blood. It’s just a bad faith assumption on your part, ignoring that people often carry weapons for good faith reasons. Ignoring that no one was attacked with said guns except for the protestors.

It has not been proven that Sicknick was murdered. He died due to a blood clot that happened while he was on duty.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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All of the alleged "fraud" is easy to debunk with a bit of google searching. You refuse to do so, so I question your agenda. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/facebook-p...

You literally didn't read some combination of my sources, my comment, or the article you linked, and they prove you false. The article you linked says that the ballots were processed "legally". I explicitly said that they were probably processed legally, but intentionally deceitfully. The article says that a claim that was debunked was that the ballots were kept in "suitcases". I never claimed that they were - nor do…

"Gabriel Sterling, a top Georgia election official, said Friday that election investigators had watched all the surveillance video from State Farm Arena in Atlanta, not just the 90 seconds Rudy Giuliani's legal team showed in a Georgia Senate subcommittee hearing, and they found that the "suitcases" were regular ballot boxes on wheels and the vote count was supervised until the end. Trump's team is "intentionally misleading the public about what happened at State Farm Arena on election night," Sterling said. "These aren't magical ballots."

You're wrong. The accusations are wrong. Our judges, some Trump appointees, said the accusations are baseless. Stop buying into bullshit because reality is uncomfortable.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Were you scared of the women’s March murdering you after they “stormed” the capitol? https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/1048634940169048064?s=20

This comment is why having this discussion is so difficult. To anyone not invested emotionally in this conversation, it's clear that your point isn't making a valid point. They are not equivalent actions. You're pretending they are to try to lend cover to the truly harmful action that just took place. We can call a spade a spade without pretending that everything else is also a spade. To be clear, I am directly sayin…

> I am attacking your idea directly, not you.

This is why I don't talk politics, ever. You simply cannot attack a person's idea in politics, because their ideas are their identity. They will respond with the ferocity in which they would if someone were to physically attack them. While noble of you to try, it will fail. Every time.

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