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Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by guilhas »

doomslice wrote: post #167
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #146

Storming? Let’s not get ahead ourselves here. The capitol police literally opened the door and let them inside: https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1347615270504955904... Which explains this hilarious picture of a 70-year old grandma “coup plotter” posing with coffee mug. https://twitter.com/TheRealEWILLZ/status/1346999976899932161...

Maybe this will change your mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=20m04s&v=cJOgGsC0G9U

It does not. Only shows the security had everything under control and only let them in specific areas

Also the protesters look pretty tame. Looks more like the crowd at a festival pushing each other.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by [deleted] »

snoshy wrote: post #344
ljf wrote: post #300

How was every person leaving the building not searched by police as a condition of exit? The kettling and taking of details of (even peaceful) protesters in the UK is pretty standard now (I don't like it, but it is what seems to happen) - so why did they just let these people leave unchecked?

Clearly the police were outnumbered to a degree that they couldn't prevent them from getting inside in the first place, so why would they have sufficient forces to search these individuals on exit?

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Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by cratermoon »

13415 wrote: post #121
neolog wrote: post #114

What is a good strategy for most convenience while securing private data on a laptop that could be stolen? Full disk encryption is good for when the machine is powered off. What about for the scenario when it gets swiped during the work day when I'm in the bathroom?

Full disk encryption and a strict policy of always closing the laptop / lock the screen when leaving. In some scenarios USB ports also need to be physically disabled.

Speaking of lock screens (and Speakers), did you see Pelosi's screen? Wasn't she on the floor of the House at that time? Why wasn't her screen locked? I can think of half a dozen scenarios of carelessness or time pressure. The first one comes to mind is that she was using it, suddenly evacuated and didn't flip the lock on, and the mob reached her desk before the lock timer expired. But I do wonder if the was even a screen lock.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by chrisco255 »

amyjess wrote: post #209
djsumdog wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> insurrectionists Peaceful protestors. Were the BLM people who stormed city hall in Seattle insurrectionists? Where the Black Panthers who took the California State Capitol in the 1970s insurrectionists? Stop with the bullshit name games. These were not rioters. They didn't set anything on fire. They should not have stolen or broken anything. That's wrong and bad and should be condemned. Those people should get fede…

Storming the capitol to stop the certification of an election whose result t hey didn't like is the very definition of an attempted coup d'etat. They had zip ties meant for the purpose of taking hostages: https://twitter.com/Adiscen/status/1347189171362918400 IEDs were found at the DNC and RNC: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/pipe-bomb-rnc... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-exclusive-photo-sus…

They were let in. The guy with the zip ties is likely an undercover agent.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by deathgrips »

jsjohnst wrote: post #469
djsumdog wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you assume that's everything that happened? Did she break through a barrier? People were walking right in.You don't know which group she cam in with. In the various videos, she was trying to get out. They all were. The dude who fired the shot, are you really defending him? A man with no real reasonable threat to his life? None of the people in that shot were shown to be armed. Honest question, what are your views…

> And you assume that's everything that happened? There's multiple camera angles which captured the minutes leading up to her death, posted on major news sites like The Washington Post, so no assumption needed. I still don't feel the shoot to kill was justified (especially as a shot in an area that would immobilize a person, like the chest or the gut, would've been safer of collateral damage vs a shot to the head, si…

You betray your ignorance about firearms. You cannot shoot to immobilize. Every shot taken is practically and legally a shot intending to kill. Real life is not a hollywood movie.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by neuronic »

Just a side note, to compare a slightly similar situation (with far less potential for violence).

It happened in Germany several months and three officers defended the Reichstag building from radical anti-Corona protesters until reinforcements arrived.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-56opg-Xg [cellphone source]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AxyHaHYIY [actual news]

The key difference is that the German protesters didn't bring automatic weapons, molotov cocktails and pipe bombs. I sincerely hope federal authorities will get every single domestic terrorist involved in the Capitol storming.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by kahrl »

everybodyknows wrote: post #467
kahrl wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you can pin in on those who smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher? https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-michael-...

This is the weird bit: >returned to his division office after the incident and collapsed Someone should have known that after a heavy blow to the head he needed to go straight to an ER.

Sorry, but who are you to say who saw what and what officers MIGHT have been negligent during all that chaos?

If it is determined that the people who SMASHED HIS HEAD IN WITH A DAMN FIRE EXTINGUISHER didn't intend to kill him, the 2nd degree murder charge might possibly be downgraded to felony murder or manslaughter.

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by gizmo686 »

rurp wrote: post #453
gizmo686 wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Access to classified intelligence means that they are allowed to enter a secure room/facility and view the material. They still should not be taking said material out into an unclassified environment.

There are different levels of classification that carry different restrictions. Also, govt infosec being what it is, there are likely plenty of lapses.

Even the lowest level of classification (confidential) means that the data should not be stored on an unclassified system, and has additional physical storage requirements that Pelosi's main office doesn't meet.

At worst, the laptop had FOUO/CUI (for official use only/controlled unclassified information) data. Not great for that to get leaked; but not that scary from a national security perspective (we're pretty aggressive about classifying stuff).

If anything damaging comes out of this, I would expect it to be of a political nature; where something that Pelosi and friends would prefer to keep secret gets leaked, but doesn't have much influence on national security.

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Post by throwaway201103 »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #447
knorker wrote: post #409

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? Most of the rioters seem like herpa-derpers, but some came there on a mission, like this guy: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13690389/us-capitol-rioters-zi... (those are not regular zipties, but the "taking hostages" kind)

I also notice he’s masked. That was unusual for that lot. There were definitely some folks there with mayhem in mind.

Yes it would be really interesting to find out who those guys were, were they Proud Boys, Antifa, foreign agents, undercover domestic agents, etc?

Re: Laptop stolen from Pelosi's office during storming of U.S. Capitol, says aide

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Post by dang »

bregma wrote: post #293
ladyanita22 wrote: post #240

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How can you lock up Windows like that?

If you can separate children from their parents and lock them in cages you are probably ready to go one step further and lock up Windows too.

Please don't break the site guidelines like this, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. The idea is to not have every thread turn into the same flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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