Well I suppose after inciting a mob to storm the parliament it's entirely defensible his group gets the ban. I am generally not a fan of banning political groups based on their stance alone but this one is getting dangerous.
Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
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If you wonder why they are threatened consider parler and the things people post there. Please forgive the language it is verbatim and I think threats of violence are more offensive than bad words. > You had better be ready partriots! It is go time very soon. We must attack all central communications to big cities are democratic cities. Fiber optics telecom bridges supply routes we can starve those motherfuckers to d…
> "the things people post there" You mean, the things a tiny handful of people post there. Most posters are center-right and don't advocate violence. I would also note that there's been plenty of talk of violence against conservatives on left-leaning platforms, Twitter especially but many others. These people are never called out even if they talk about "rounding them up and putting them in camps" and similar Nazi-li…
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Oh, I think that’s just a convoluted way of saying you lived in a bubble. It was quite clear that this was going to happen. No one on my timeline is shocked at all. In fact, I’ve been complaining about these deplorables since 2013 (even before the phrase was coined).
What bubble are you referring to? Saying it was obvious now doesn't say anything about having good predictive ability. My recollection is up until about Monday, most people were asleep on this. And then around Tuesday the zeitguest was this was going to be a dumb clown show. The number of people claiming that violence was inevitable and the capitol was going to be stormed, outside of the obvious circles, was in my ex…
I wasn’t trying to offend you. Everyone lives in a bubble or several.
My timeline consists mainly of 80% American minorities and 20% graduates from elite US universities (with some overlap between the two groups obviously). What about yours? No one on my timeline was surprised. And if they were, they were privileged white people (no offense just being honest when talking about Harvard/MIT grads).
These insurrectionists complained all year about wearing masks. Some of them even shot retail workers because they were so upset. How could you not see this coming?
It’s sort of hard for me to tell based on your comments. Do you live in the U.S. and where about? I could see how one would be surprised if they lived abroad and only used mainstream social media to gauge what’s going on.
But if you’ve lived in the U.S. and read any of the think pieces in mainstream newspapers or even popular Medium articles over the last 4 years, you would have likely learned about the surge in domestic terrorism committed by white supremacists. There were so many articles, especially this past year in the summer. How could you not have read any of them?
Well, I do know that those sort of articles get downvoted on HN and don’t surface to the top. I’m not sure why articles with titles like “FBI confirms a surge in domestic terrorism” aren’t important to HN. (That was sarcasm.)
I literally had a conversation with dang@ the other day about this, and he didn’t believe me.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#524Why not piss off half the population while we are on the brink of a civil war?
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#525The cynic in me can't help but notice that all these platforms are suddenly growing a backbone now that we know Democrats will control both the executive and legislative branches.
I think it's impossible to say. The fact that the capitol got stormed the same day as the democrats won control means it's impossible to disaggregate. It might be a cynical move by Facebook but is it also a cynical move by Betsy Devos? What difference did democrat control make to her?
Rats jumping off the sinking ship.
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What other options do you have if you can't educate or have intellectual discourse with people who are fabricating reality or deeply believe in conspiracy theories? It's like trying to pull someone out of a cult like Scientology. Of course, attempt to engage to improve the situation and help someone obtain ground truth on their own from legitimate information sources, but when it's obviously hopeless insulate yoursel…
That's not up to you. Real intellectual discourse isn't your way or the highway . You, like anyone else, has the potential to be wrong, and you're probably wrong a lot more than you think you are. If your arguments don't sway people, that's neither your failing nor the failing of those you are trying to convince. When you censor people, that only emboldens them, and proves to everyone that yes , there are people who…
> If you build a system that is so technologically perfect that it extinguishes violence from the public space, then you have created a system of slavery.
I intuitively get the point you are trying to make (sovereignty, "government has a monopoly on violence," yadda yadda), but I don't think it reflects the real, both contemporary and historical, systems of slavery.
Chattel slavery in the antebellum South's relied on extrajudicial violence. International sex trafficking is inherently violent. Modern slavery most often occurs in areas with widespread, violent conflict. Why should we be worried about "benevolent AI overlords" going rogue when historically civilizations with high percentages of unfree people were extremely violent?
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Have you ever spent time on the leftist "tankie" / "Chapo trap house" kind of subreddits? Or the Gen Zedong groups that glorify the purge of landlords during the communist revolution in China? If we are really going to go after such people wanting to violently overthrow the government we can't be ignoring the left when they do it.
Exactly. There are dangerous extremists on both ends of the spectrum, but God forbid you want to assess the entire landscape in some forums. You're just mocked for being some kind of centrist , as if not being a slobbering partisan is a character flaw.
Because "both sides" is an invalid argument when both sides are clearly not equal
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#528This seriously isn't enough. We need to ask for more before it's too late for this country. - Ban all /r/conservative - Ban /r/libertarian - Require pinned posts from /r/politics at all time to keep people properly informed (/r/all) - Create an internal auditing team to start immediately banning users who may have voted for Trump or comment against progressive causes - Work with other social media companies to create…
As I type this, all the other replies have been Poe's Law'd by this comment. Well done.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#529Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…
Ironic that their guy was the one behind the attacks on net neutrality. Might have helped in their case with their ISP.
A smart Republican would nave realised that big internet companies are against him, and would have made plans accordingly.
If Trump had been competent, he wouldn't have attacked net neutrality, he would have said net neutrality is a wonderful idea, and extended it to other layers of the protocol stack.
He would also have got on board when people like Elizabeth Warren talked about breaking up Facebook and Amazon.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#530Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…
> Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see what these people are talking about and how they think.
To be afraid of being "judged" for your relatively tame and objective comments speaks volumes about the state of our increasingly polarized culture.