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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #208

Incredible how so called "Americans" will drop free speech in a millisecond because it is made by people who are not with their party's OurGuy(TM). I recognize Reddit is under extreme foreign pressure having received and operating on $300MM from the chinese communist party.

> having received and operating on $300MM from the chinese communist party. Source?

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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Content moderation is a form of free speech. You don't get to tell others what to do just because of your wayward political views. They taught us this in elementary school.

I agree - but as I've said above at some point, at some certain size, moderation goes very quickly to censorship when you go deleting the largest platform by far for one side to discuss things, when they're NOT actually doing anything that thousands of other subreddits do that aren't banned.

No matter how you try to shoehorn it in there, it is not censorship for someone not to provide you a platform. Your viewpoint and perspective is free to be shared on several other platforms. They're not as big? So what? Your right to speak is not "your right to audience the size of your choosing".

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #208

Incredible how so called "Americans" will drop free speech in a millisecond because it is made by people who are not with their party's OurGuy(TM). I recognize Reddit is under extreme foreign pressure having received and operating on $300MM from the chinese communist party.

> having received and operating on $300MM from the chinese communist party. Source?

"Reddit confirms $300M Series D led by China’s Tencent at $3B value"

https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/11/reddit-300-million/

"CCP-Controlled Tencent Inserts Tentacles Into Reddit"

https://visiontimes.com/2019/02/22/ccp-controlled-tencent-in...

Has anyone seen Jack Ma?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #196

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Calling people Nazi's is a great way to dehumanize someone, but not really a great way to win anyone over because it's not an argument.

The only fascism I see is the censorship going around.

How are they Nazis or fascists? Most want limited government, and no censorship. Trump supporters don't own the media and aren't silencing people.

I don't see why you have to attack me or my account. You're the one calling people fascists and getting flagged. I just wanted to point out that name calling gets you nowhere.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #240

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Eh, curation and moderation is a valuable service that many are willing to pay for. The issue isn't that service providers are arbiters, the problem is that there are so few service providers that one can meaningfully choose from due in large part to the difficulty of taking one's social network along with you. If service providers had federated communication then it would be a different story.

I agree with you, my argued solution to most of the problems surrounding the Internet is regulation which will create emergent conditions to incentivize decentralization. The design of the Internet got us about 90% of what we needed, but we need our government to close the final 10% of the gap to realize the full benefits of the thesis of the Internet, much like anti-trust laws are a pre-requisite to realize maximal…

What sort of regulation would you like to see?

I've heard folks suggest making it criminal to share or sell user data, for instance, which would be the death of freemium services.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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> if you can't educate or have intellectual discourse with people who are fabricating reality or deeply believe in conspiracy theories Why do you want to go to great lengths and "educate" people on your point of view?

Facts. We're talking about educating on facts, not fiction or subjection positions.

Which facts? Could you elaborate?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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> Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump No, they didn't.

Approximately 23% of the US population voted for him. Typically I don't like this arguement, the rest of the population would probably have voted along much the same proportions as those who did.

voter turnout * share = .667 * .469 = 0.312823 or did you count in people not eligible to vote? like kids and foreigner?

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)

They definitely didn't need that disclaimer. And it's a lot more complicated than who you voted for out of two choices.

There are always more than "two choices". This "two choices" bullshit is the cause of Trump's entire presidency.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #27

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Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)

Popularity does not imply morality. 46.8% of people voted for Donald Trump (not "quite literally 1/2"), a man who is a known fraud, morally bankrupt in business and personal life, and who has shown himself to be incompetent in office. People who voted for Donald Trump should be ashamed of their vote. That said, reading what people are saying in an effort to understand and to de-radicalize is not something to be asham…

> a man who is a known fraud, morally bankrupt in business and personal life, and who has shown himself to be incompetent in office.

Are you talking about donald trump or joe biden?

> People who voted for Donald Trump should be ashamed of their vote.

Using your logic, those who voted for corrupt biden should be ashamed as well.

> That said, reading what people are saying in an effort to understand and to de-radicalize is not something to be ashamed of.

Have you taken a look in the mirror. People like you are what's wrong with the country. Extremist and blind to their own faults.

We had two choices this year. Maybe I'll phrase it in a way you can understand. On the one hand, we had a "corrupt, evil rich privileged white male" and on the other hand, we had a "corrupt, evil rich privileged white male".

People like you whine about rich privileged corrupt white males all the time and yet are slaving over a rich privileged corrupt white male.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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post #6

What else is new, censorship is OK as long as only one side is doing it.

No one is being censored. You’re perfectly welcome to go on 4chan or breitbart or parler or even other subreddits or just build a new platform. No one is entitled to use other people’s resources and effort to have their views amplified without moderation by those people offering that service. Edit: every time I post a comment like this here I get downvoted. I’m not complaining, downvote away. But I have to wonder if…

> But I have to wonder if the folks downvoting realize how much this site is moderated

This site currently doesn't ban people just because the post is disagreeable. I've managed to respectfully discuss inflammatory topics here before, even though I'm usually the one with the unpopular opinion. On reddit people just get downvoted to oblivion or banned on sight if they post anything that offends the sensibilities of the group.

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