Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump” • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by staplers » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

safog wrote: post #11

Exuma wrote: post #6

What else is new, censorship is OK as long as only one side is doing it.

You say this after the president of the United States has incited a seditious, violet mob to attack the Capitol because he's a sore loser. There are many examples you can pick if you want to point out bias in media, day before yesterday was not one. For reference, conservative subreddits remain active, Donald Trump is the one that's banned.

Imagine if ISIS had a twitter account or reddit fanpage. How fast would conservatives pass legislation to take it down?

If the terrorists are white, they're treated differently.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by FalconSensei » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

elicash wrote: post #31

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

"delete certain posts" Presumably violent threats?

Guess a lot of racist stuff, based on things I saw on Twitter

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by typon » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #54

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

> Irrelevant They allowed the group to build and grow then once they moved off they killed the sub?

I meant this new ban is irrelevant. Any Trump presence on reddit is minor after the initial ban earlier last year.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by daniel957 » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

gfodor wrote: post #32

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

Same. I've long worried lurking there was going to cause more harm than it's worth (for example, by letting me inadvertently slip into extremism) but the ability to predict what happened this week so easily and warn people about it who considered going was well worth that risk. Also I read there they are losing their SSL cert or something, so that might be how centralized, non-legal authority manages to shut them dow…

You didn’t need to look at those sites to predict what was going to happen.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by simonswords82 » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

edmundsauto wrote: post #62

justaman wrote: post #16

I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.

Kicking them off is advantageous for Reddit because they no longer have to deal with the dramas.

True, but they also sacrifice eyeballs and revenue.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by iso1631 » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

> Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me)

Have you never heard of the DMCA?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25682785

Wikipedia was threatened for having B709D3A0CD2FEC08EAFCCF540D8A100BB38E5E091D646ADB7B14D021096FFCD on a web page.

ISPs are frequently threatening to disconnect customers who serve files, and sites that are large enough to have their own connectivity have had this for 20 years.

This one for example

https://slashdot.org/story/00/05/11/0153247/microsoft-asks-s...

"Under the provisions of the DMCA, we expect that having been duly notified of this case of blatant copyright violation, Andover will remove the above referenced comments from its servers and forward our complaint to the owner of the referenced comments. "

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by dleslie » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:37 PM UTC

whymauri wrote: post #28

justaman wrote: post #16

I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.

>I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. The alternative platforms tend to die off, though. Like Voat.

Some do, others stick around. Like Gab, Parler and others.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

proverbialbunny wrote: post #50

sjaak wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)

Half of the US has been told to not follow the news. Hacker News is a news site so I imagine little to no one on the Trump train is here.

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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by ddingus » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

I do not even think it is morbid.

70 million people voted for Trump. Understanding them better is not a bad thing.

Does not mean agreeing with them.

And yes, same.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by typon » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 6:38 PM UTC

elicash wrote: post #31

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

"delete certain posts" Presumably violent threats?

Yea, specifically advocating for the Capitol building riots on Jan 6th