So, what's the goal? Force Trump supporters to build their own social media?! When I see the growth of Parler, how is this helping the already struggling Twitter, Reddit, etc. I don't really get why technology companies want to get involved in the policing business - how is this helping their bottom line? Are they business or activists pretending to be businesses?
Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#62I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.
Kicking them off is advantageous for Reddit because they no longer have to deal with the dramas.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#63I just checked out http://thedonald.win/ and it has gotten a lot more extreme since it was moved off Reddit. I think it would have not gotten as extreme if it were in the Reddit ecosystem still.
I'm willing to bet it'll go the same way as Voat. Except Voat actually had a diversity of topics to discuss when it founded (although it turned to garbage in a few weeks), this website is laser focused on one demagogue.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Censorship of what? Tell me specifically the content of the speech being censored, so we can have a reasonable discussion about if there might be a rare but valid reason to censor said speech. Also, go fuck yourself. [EDIT: Lets get to the heart of it. If you refuse to accept the results of the election, you are promoting treason. If you want to play second-grade word games to explain why President Trump isnt respons…
What part about "deleted" don't you understand?
Content moderation is a form of free speech. You don't get to tell others what to do just because of your wayward political views. They taught us this in elementary school.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#65I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.
>I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. The alternative platforms tend to die off, though. Like Voat.
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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please cite me tweets/descriptions of where he incited anything. He said something like "we will remember this day," and not long after condemned violence and supported law enforcement. Then the next day he condemned it again.
This is like people who think judges are dumb and apply the law mechanically and strictly as written without any room for context or nuance. The fact is there is a history of Trump supporters turning violent after Trump rallies and speeches. It’s an established pattern that requires willfully ignoring to contend he has plausible deniability.
It's no different than BLM members burning down cities. There's this sort of thing on both sides which don't represent the larger group.
Also, FWIW, I don't support anything remotely close to storming building, but people on the left certainly are quick to blame when I've watched exact same thing happen over the last year or two.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#67Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…
Same. I've long worried lurking there was going to cause more harm than it's worth (for example, by letting me inadvertently slip into extremism) but the ability to predict what happened this week so easily and warn people about it who considered going was well worth that risk. Also I read there they are losing their SSL cert or something, so that might be how centralized, non-legal authority manages to shut them dow…
As in let's encrypt is going to blacklist their domain? Sounds unlikely.
It doesn't really matter. If this starts being a problem, we'll use a decentralized web of trust for SSL. It doesn't have to be centralized.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#68The cynic in me can't help but notice that all these platforms are suddenly growing a backbone now that we know Democrats will control both the executive and legislative branches.
Companies don't have morals, they have interests. You're just being realistic.
...and shareholders - who must be kept happy at all times.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#69Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…
Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)
>Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that?
I dont have a horse in the race neither other than stock market.
It's not that strange. It's why elections are supposed to be confidential. Public opinion is always going to shift. During Clinton's reign we had the clinton crazies who hated him. George W bush? Did anyone like him? Obama derangement was readily labelled racism. Now Trump derangement is very strong. Biden will have his haters, that's coming.
However, the derangement is real and even the illusion you're for trump will gain you hate.
Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t it strange that you have to make a disclaimer like “please don’t judge me?”. Quite literally 1/2 of the USA voted for Trump, should you automatically be ashamed of that? (It’s easy for me to say ofc, I have no horse in this race)
Half of the US has been told to not follow the news. Hacker News is a news site so I imagine little to no one on the Trump train is here.
Have a read though this and other related threads. It’s been surprising to me.