Earlier quoted context omitted.
SciHub doesn't have value so much as Elsevier has "anti-value". Scihub is a space without the negative effect of Elsevier gatekeeping, thus seeming to have a net positive effect. Instead of doing anything at all with SciHub, we should instead fight Elsevier. First blow should be on the basis that Elsevier is anti-competitive, by the logic that if wasn't there would be no reason for it to succeed at all. Second blow s…
If collecting, organizing huge data sets and creating good (or at least functional) UI for convenient access has zero value... that will be news to a bunch of people here. And also Netflix.
Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
wow, vanilla comment but this is just really inspiring. kudos to her and best wishes to y'all going forward.
I’ve wanted to give comments multiple upvotes before, but this story makes me wish HN had some sort of ‘super favorite’. #PiracySavesLives
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#123Let’s suppose sci-hub distributes unauthorized content. It’s still not counterfeit. In the physical world I believe this is called the grey market. It’s legit, just not via official distribution channels. Anyhow, another case of Twitter capriciously moderating content and quelling free speech. The worst part though is that Twitter HQ sets the policy to whatever suits their fancy. They are not beholden to their users…
> Counterfeit goods are goods, including digital goods, that are promoted, sold, or otherwise distributed using a trademark or brand that is identical to, or substantially indistinguishable from, the registered trademark or brand of another, without authorization from the trademark or brand owner. Counterfeit goods attempt to deceive consumers into believing the counterfeit is a genuine product of the brand owner, or to represent themselves as faux, replicas or imitations of the genuine product.
An unauthorized copy simply isn't counterfeit unless it is promoted as official. There's a legit copyright argument, but Twitter's rules (correctly) don't apply unless the copyrighted material is on Twitter.
> Anyhow, another case of Twitter capriciously moderating content and quelling free speech. The worst part though is that Twitter HQ sets the policy to whatever suits their fancy.
The suppression of speech is the symptom here, not the root problem. I doubt Twitter is doing this because they have an axe to grind against SciHub. Likely, an executive got a call from the journals and then told the moderation teams to figure out how to ban them.
I think the root issue is that tech/media companies are becoming a bit of a shadow-government where people with influence can shut down their competitors. And the journals probably feel they were entirely justified in "lobbying" Twitter, since SciHub is violating their copyright.
This isn't new, businesses have always made private agreements to screw each other, and the only reason we don't have smoke-filled back rooms these day is people don't smoke much. What's new is that big information / infrastructure / financial platforms are a far more influential feature of the modern political economy.
[1]: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/counterfeit-g...
Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content
#124Will the new American administration (I'm not an American and should have no bone on American politics, but this is how the world works) will significantly enable Twitbookgle to exert powers they did not under Trumpism?
https://www.cnet.com/news/joe-bidens-pro-riaa-pro-fbi-tech-v...
http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/biden-riaa-and-mpaa/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dem-vp-pick-bidens-tech-policy-...
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Journals do have a value, but not the value that Elsevier extracts out of them to the tune of billions of dollars a year in profits. Facilitating peer-review, being selective, indexing content, archiving and copyediting does indeed cost money. If we had a world where there were a large number of people dealing with peer-review referee selection, managing correspondence for free, and copyediting for free we could easi…
>Journals do have a value, but not the value that Elsevier extracts out of them to the tune of billions of dollars a year in profits. Elsevier has a 37% profit margin which is insane.
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#126At some point we need to stop the hypocrisy, recognize that SciHub is too valuable to the community to be shut down, and fix laws so that it becomes either legal or useless. That's no easy task, but it's much better than having scientists from all over the world rely on it while simultaneously pretending they are dangerous criminals.
Could/has SciHub been replicated with a database of magnet links to torrents of papers, or similar? Or does it have features that rely on centralisation at this point? Can this be remedied so that SciHub can be operational in a truly decentralized, Bitcoin-like manner, where governments can't interfere short of blocking entire networking protocols? This is not really my area of expertise, but I'd like to understand t…
Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content
#127At some point we need to stop the hypocrisy, recognize that SciHub is too valuable to the community to be shut down, and fix laws so that it becomes either legal or useless. That's no easy task, but it's much better than having scientists from all over the world rely on it while simultaneously pretending they are dangerous criminals.
Could/has SciHub been replicated with a database of magnet links to torrents of papers, or similar? Or does it have features that rely on centralisation at this point? Can this be remedied so that SciHub can be operational in a truly decentralized, Bitcoin-like manner, where governments can't interfere short of blocking entire networking protocols? This is not really my area of expertise, but I'd like to understand t…
Sci-Hub can pull PDF's on demand from academic databases, using credentials that have been secretly donated to them.
Once the file is acquired, it could be distributed with a magnet link, but getting it out from behind the paywall in the first place is the tricky part.
Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content
#128At some point we need to stop the hypocrisy, recognize that SciHub is too valuable to the community to be shut down, and fix laws so that it becomes either legal or useless. That's no easy task, but it's much better than having scientists from all over the world rely on it while simultaneously pretending they are dangerous criminals.
Could/has SciHub been replicated with a database of magnet links to torrents of papers, or similar? Or does it have features that rely on centralisation at this point? Can this be remedied so that SciHub can be operational in a truly decentralized, Bitcoin-like manner, where governments can't interfere short of blocking entire networking protocols? This is not really my area of expertise, but I'd like to understand t…
Apparently it was 55TB two years ago. It's probably still somewhere in the realm of a smallish NAS and I bet a couple people on /r/datahoarders have it all downloaded.
Hosting is a different matter. I'm not sure if there's some effort to have it available on IPFS or DAT
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#129Isn't Twitter a private organization that can ban anyone they want?
Only assholes decide unilaterally for other adults what they're allowed to see and read.
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#130Why do we even allow twitter this power. Stop using twitter.
It's only going to get worse if you keep using social media. Delete your accounts while you can.