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Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Post by djsumdog »

rhino369 wrote: post #38
xnyan wrote: post #4

Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

>Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. Maybe I'm just older and have less free time, but public trackers seem less and less useful every year. And private trackers have a huge barrier to entry.

Pirate Bay is a great tracker of last resort .. and when I look for something rare I can't find on a public tracker, it usually showed up on Pirate Bay.

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Post by hedora »

mariuolo wrote: post #30
breck wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also please post somewhere your support of her with your real name, and reach out with kind words. Every PhD I know relies on this site, but more importantly 10x+ more people I know who are otherwise "outside" academia rely on this site. How many of the world's best researchers in 30 years will have turned out to get their start in research not thanks to Academia but thanks to SciHub? My guess is most of them. And ma…

> "Elbakyan may be working with Russian military intelligence. The story says she may have been stealing US military secrets from defense contractors" And how is sci-hub connected to that?

The same way the false [1] allegations against Julian Assange are related to Wikileaks.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22201381

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Post by hndudette2 »

wincy wrote: post #33
xnyan wrote: post #4

Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

When our daughter was born with a rare life threatening condition my wife used SciHub to read articles about her condition. While the doctors had merely skimmed the pages, my wife pored over them and found a suggestion of using a particular drug. After asking five different doctors about it, one finally agreed to prescribe it. It was strange how reticent doctors were to prescribe something and instead just told us sh…

> After asking five different doctors about it, one finally agreed to prescribe it.

Were the other four too lazy/orthodox to read the papers you're referencing? Or they read the papers and still thought it wasn't a good idea? I'm going to presume that the former is the case, unfortunately.

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Post by djsumdog »

jjbinx007 wrote: post #23
MikusR wrote: post #16

Isn't Twitter a private organization that can ban anyone they want?

Yes. What a shame there aren't more decentralised services like email, the web and Usenet (which is now pretty much dead). Twitter can do pretty much what it wants to who it wants, and they don't have to give a reason. Maybe you get banned due to an algorithm mistake. Or an individual contracted by Twitter who doesn't like what you said. Or maybe they misunderstand what you said due to cultural differences. I found m…

Start using ActivityPub (Mastodon/Pleroma/PeerTube/PixelFed/etc.) If takes people in tech using it first to build momentum.

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Post by absolutelyrad »

wincy wrote: post #33
xnyan wrote: post #4

Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

When our daughter was born with a rare life threatening condition my wife used SciHub to read articles about her condition. While the doctors had merely skimmed the pages, my wife pored over them and found a suggestion of using a particular drug. After asking five different doctors about it, one finally agreed to prescribe it. It was strange how reticent doctors were to prescribe something and instead just told us sh…

I'm so happy for you!

There's a company that is not public but working in this space, I cannot recall it's name. They use NLP to diagnose patient condition by ingesting raw information/text from medical books/papers. You describe how you feel and any other information that you have in an article, and it gives out possible conditions and prescription.

AFAIK, they still recommended that you go to the doctor, but you could use it as an extra to check the diagnosis yourself.

But their point was they have all the data coming out in new papers, and the system studies it constantly and is always kept up.

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Post by rarefied_tomato »

mariuolo wrote: post #30
breck wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also please post somewhere your support of her with your real name, and reach out with kind words. Every PhD I know relies on this site, but more importantly 10x+ more people I know who are otherwise "outside" academia rely on this site. How many of the world's best researchers in 30 years will have turned out to get their start in research not thanks to Academia but thanks to SciHub? My guess is most of them. And ma…

> "Elbakyan may be working with Russian military intelligence. The story says she may have been stealing US military secrets from defense contractors" And how is sci-hub connected to that?

I'm not aware of any facts supporting Elsevier's accusation, and I would characterize it as intentional disinformation.

Elbakyan runs Sci-Hub.

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Post by jowsie »

dcomp wrote: post #26
jszymborski wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This case is unlike movie or music distribution in there has been convenient online distribution of papers since arguably the dawn of the internet (ok, maybe "convenient" came later). The difference is, the journal publisher groups realised they can continue charging extortionary prices and get rid of the competition of "free" paper websites by suing everything that moved. Academics, generally getting slightly-less-t…

Also when I was in academia (masters). If my university didn't subscribe to a journal (and it wasn't available via an inter-library loan (In the UK you can ask for a journal from another university)). I would just shoot an email to the author asking for a copy Edit: Actually I usually sent emails even when we did have a hard copy but no online access. Just because I couldn't be bothered to find the physical copy

The issue with this is the authors of some papers either don't respond or simply aren't alive anymore.

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Post by mainstreemm »

cute_boi wrote: post #34

Twitter is slowly being more dangerous day by day. Scihub is too valuable and I haven't seen any high level researcher who haven't used scihub. We need to stop oligarchy . Knowledge should be avail free to those people who can't afford. Government, Corporation please stop pushing humanity to backward direction.

Under the new Administration Twitter will assuredly ban anyone who doesn't appropriately mouth the narrative. The bans are already picking up steam, and have been since the election.

Trump: gone. Khamenei? Still tweeting about how America is the devil and the Holocaust wasn't real. Where's the explainer under this tweet [0] telling me that this information is disputed wrongthink?

0 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1321494146989907969?r...

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Post by djsumdog »

illustriousbear wrote: post #25

Hackernews comments were generally onboard with Twitter banning Trump for controversial tweets that can be considered as incitement. As much as I like Sci-Hub, it is clearly a service that disregards and breaches copyright. If you advocate for Twitter exercising a heavy hand on greyer areas (Trump), you shouldn’t be surprised when they do the same for clear breaches of their TOS/Laws (SciHub). It scares me that these…

I agree that HN comments were completely and totally wrong to be onboard with banning Trump AND I also do not agree with banning Sci-Hub...

but the solution isn't screaming at Twitter. The solution is using our freedom of speech and expression to start creating and supporting other services. I know that's hard, but at least in your personal life, try to use ActivityPub services and encourage everyone else to do so. Set up a Mastodon and Pleroma server and give invites to all your friends.

Now I have done this and on my personal server, like 20+ friends have created accounts and to day .. only one still uses them. It will take time, and really only you can take care of yourself.

Also, long-from blog. Follow any friends that blog with and RSS reader. Encourage everyone else to use an RSS reader. Why the hell are we using Twitter when you can follow the blogs and news sites with RSS? You can see which news sites have new articles, rather that letting Facebook and Twitter decide the order and type of information your receive.

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