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Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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I'm not sure how that fits within the counterfeit rule. If they weren't the real papers at scihub wouldn't it be all OK? The issue seems to be that the problem (according to publishers) is that the real papers are available not behind a pay wall.

The issue here isn't that the users of scihub are being defrauded by thinking they're ordering Prada and instead getting knockoffs.

Not saying I endorse scihub BTW, just that the excuse given doesn't jive at all with reality.

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Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before.

If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fraction of a fraction because there's 1) YouTube and 2) Spotify et al. You can listen to music all day with ads and not pay a cent, or you can pay a reasonable fee and get all the HQ music you can eat without ads. Publishers continue to screw content makers, but that's another conversation.

Just trying to ban pirate sources is a wonderful dream for publishers for sure, but there's no way it can work. Scientific papers are just too easy to share, the need for them high, and the current pricing too insane for it to be otherwise.

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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At some point we need to stop the hypocrisy, recognize that SciHub is too valuable to the community to be shut down, and fix laws so that it becomes either legal or useless. That's no easy task, but it's much better than having scientists from all over the world rely on it while simultaneously pretending they are dangerous criminals.

Re: Sci-Hub Founder Criticizes Sudden Twitter Ban over “Counterfeit” Content

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Rights holders have been trying to get rid of sites like the pirate bay for more than a decade, and if anything PB is easier to find and more reliable to use than ever before. If they really want change, it's time for them to dispassionately consider their situation. The way to "beat" piracy is to consider it as a competitor, which it is. When I was a kid, everyone downloaded raw mp3s and now that number is a fractio…

This case is unlike movie or music distribution in there has been convenient online distribution of papers since arguably the dawn of the internet (ok, maybe "convenient" came later).

The difference is, the journal publisher groups realised they can continue charging extortionary prices and get rid of the competition of "free" paper websites by suing everything that moved.

Academics, generally getting slightly-less-than-free copies of the papers at their institutions and generally being apathetic about their universities being extorted, created a gulf and precluded any kind of pirate culture.

But publishers have since become emboldened, prices have risen, the inequality access has been increasingly advocated for and brought to light, and the open access journals had a bit of momentum for moment.

Honestly, if you ask me, the solution here is pretty simple (at least in some fields). Negotiate (if it's not already granted) the permission to publish manuscripts and pre-prints. Submit them to ArXiV or Bio/MedRxiv, or whatever repository.

This doesn't tackle the issue of academics paying publishers to send emails to other academics who in turn work for free to review papers, but one battle at a time.

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