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I created a signal group. Invited the entire family to it. Used it to keep everyone up-to-date during delivery. Now that group is where I share photos/videos of my kids growing up, and where we organize our trips back home. Nobody has complained.
tl;dr: procreate and use your children to align incentives.
I just did it with my family, who use FB and know at a high level why FB is bad. Here's what I said: "WhatsApp is now sucking all of your convos (including baby photos, etc.) into Facebook with their recent policy update. We're switching our family group chat to Signal". My mom, who's nearly 70 did it almost instantaneously. EDIT: My parents began to understand why FB is bad by reading books and watching documentarie…
That may be a good motivator, but it's not true. The content of the messages are not going to be "sucked up into Facebook." The content of Whatsapp messages aren't accessible by Facebook.
How do we know for sure?
It is closed source. We have to rely on reverse engeneering or whistleblowers inside FB.
I just did it with my family, who use FB and know at a high level why FB is bad. Here's what I said: "WhatsApp is now sucking all of your convos (including baby photos, etc.) into Facebook with their recent policy update. We're switching our family group chat to Signal". My mom, who's nearly 70 did it almost instantaneously. EDIT: My parents began to understand why FB is bad by reading books and watching documentarie…
That may be a good motivator, but it's not true. The content of the messages are not going to be "sucked up into Facebook." The content of Whatsapp messages aren't accessible by Facebook.
Technically, maybe not, but do the semantics really matter here?
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Uprooting and going away with no warning, and then refusing to communicate unless it's not from an old platform sounds is a perfect recipe for being seen as awfully arrogant. The issue here is that it's a sudden approach. Humans are creatures of habit, and shifting interpersonal relationships slowly matters. This is not an API migration to a new provider where you push a commit or two and it's done. If you explain wh…
How is it arrogant to dictate personal boundaries? If your not comfortable using a messaging app, you don’t have to use it. Why are you suggesting that everyone needs to bow to peer pressure or they’re arrogant? If I suddenly decide one day I don’t want to drink alcohol but all my friends do, if they see me as arrogant because of that, that’s their problem, not mine. I’m under no obligation to slowly stop drinking be…
If you suddenly decide to stop drinking, it's not arrogant and I would hope your friends would be supportive.
Arrogant would be expecting them to all stop going to the bar because you don't want go anymore.
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> how do they use this information? I don't know. Do you? The terms and conditions say they do it for "operating and providing our Services". It's vague on purpose. And it's not only FB, it's their "business partners" (read it as: whoever pays us) too. "As part of the Facebook family of companies, WhatsApp receives information from, and shares information with, this family of companies. We may use the information we…
So, I took a look. You said that they share the contests of your messages. Looks like that's simply wrong. Messsages "We do not retain your messages in the ordinary course of providing our Services to you. Instead, your messages are stored on your device and not typically stored on our servers. Once your messages are delivered, they are deleted from our servers." Photos "When a user forwards media within a message, w…
Is this big with folks outside of the United States? Is it something that is largely used in the tech community? My friends and I just use run of the mill SMS/MMS with whatever app, or use Facebook Messenger even when we have each other's numbers, or will indiscriminately switch between the two.
My wife's family almost exclusively uses Marco Polo and iMessage.
Nobody will give a damn about the privacy changes. You've got to convince them based on other features like stickers, video playback and other "exciting" things.
And it seems like may others do too: https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1347240006444675072
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That may be a good motivator, but it's not true. The content of the messages are not going to be "sucked up into Facebook." The content of Whatsapp messages aren't accessible by Facebook.
> The content of Whatsapp messages aren't accessible by Facebook. You don't know that. Sure the messages are (claimed to be) e2e encrypted. But key exchange goes through Whatsapp (Facebook) servers. So they could give themselves access easily enough if they wanted to.
The key exchange going through their servers isn't so much the problem; public-key cryptography solves this. The problem is that the clients are closed source.