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Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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You're comparing a speculative mania in fictional crime-bucks to a speculative mania in a car company worth more than Facebook while simultaneously selling just 4% as many cars as Toyota. Tesla's price to earnings ratio is 1500 meaning it would take until the year 3521 for it to earn back its market cap. The fact you're even making this assessment tells me this isn't going to end well for anyone. Heed my warning: The…

You could also call gold "speculative mania in shiny trinkets with little utility", but that one has lasted thousands of years so far. Describing something in colorful language doesn't make it a strong argument. Being so sure that BTC is a bubble is just as naive as being completely sure it's going up to a million dollars per coin. It's just speculation either way, and there is no fundamental law of nature (or even p…

> Being so sure that BTC is a bubble is just as naive as being completely sure it's going up to a million dollars per coin. It's just speculation either way, and there is no fundamental law of nature (or even principle of economics) preventing either outcome.

Which is why I'm not playing. And why I don't have any gold.

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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Then you must really hate the US Dollar!

Nobody lost their fortune just by keeping dollars in an account. Most people who invested in altcoins have.

Altcoins are just penny stocks.

Nothing new under the sun.

Same scammers, same scams.

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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They need to FIX the backend. It's crazy how slow it gets when crypto's start spiking. And they wanna ipo?? Come on fix the application! It is extremely frustrating. I think I read somewhere it was built on rails...at any rate a guess they're doing a bunch of microservices behind the scenes but its just a terrible user experience. I was on binance but had to leave due to the political bs. Anyways please fix coinbase!

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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It's most definitely true, especially my biggest expenses of taxes, real estate, education, and healthcare. Savings (for retirement or otherwise) is probably the other big expense, which you could classify as "stocks", but if you predict more volatility in the future, therefore needing to save more now, then that is also increasing in price.

Taxes are a function of income, so irrelevant [edit] and either factored into CPI or again, not monetary policy. That's fiscal policy. Take it up with congress, not the fed. Real estate, while down, is a supply and demand function. In big cities, supply is artificially constrained to the benefit of existing landowners. On average across the US housing, on an inflation-adjusted dollars per square foot basis, is actual…

Taxes paid can go up even if your income does not. Tolls, car registration fees, property taxes, etc are all taxes. Therefore, they are very relevant when discussing CPI, as it directly affects your bottom line.

I specifically wrote the "goods and services I want" so real estate that I'm not interested in doesn't concern me. I have to plan my life around buying real estate that I want, and so if the price of that real estate is increasing, then it's once again affecting my bottom line.

Education and healthcare being social and fiscal policy issues is irrelevant to me for budgeting purposes. All I am concerned with is the price to achieve the life I want for myself and my kids.

I am predicting that the items I am interested in buying are worth $x in year 2021, but will be worth $y in year 2030, and the difference in $x and $y will be more than what is predicted by official CPI numbers. This has proven true for the last 15 to 20 years for me.

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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If you did last week you would have already doubled your investment

Only if you're smart enough to know when to sell and never buy back in.

Like selling in 2017/2018 and never buying back in? Or the peak before at ~$1,200?

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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The pandemic is speeding up change in the world. The transition to crypto currencies is happening faster than ever. Lots of people who are resistant to change are going to miss the boat and are going to be stuck holding the anchor that is the massive over leveraged debt in the fiat currency world.

> The transition to crypto currencies is happening faster than ever

Except I have yet to see any convincing indicators that crypto currency is actually being used for day to day transactions.

Everything I see suggests people are hoping it's the next gold rush and they'll strike it rich based on timing alone.

(Which is not to say I don't sometimes think about how back in 2011 I toyed with the idea of buying 1000 bitcoins just for kicks when they were ~$1 each.)

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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The pandemic is speeding up change in the world. The transition to crypto currencies is happening faster than ever. Lots of people who are resistant to change are going to miss the boat and are going to be stuck holding the anchor that is the massive over leveraged debt in the fiat currency world.

Are there any evidence people are using it more and not just buying into the speculation frenzy?

Re: Coinbase hits number 30 in the top free apps on Apple's mobile store

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You're comparing a speculative mania in fictional crime-bucks to a speculative mania in a car company worth more than Facebook while simultaneously selling just 4% as many cars as Toyota. Tesla's price to earnings ratio is 1500 meaning it would take until the year 3521 for it to earn back its market cap. The fact you're even making this assessment tells me this isn't going to end well for anyone. Heed my warning: The…

> meaning it would take until the year 3521 for it to earn back its market cap There are much better ways to make this argument than extrapolating based on current earnings forever. e.x. “Tesla would have to capture X% of worldwide automobile sales AND capture Y% of worldwide taxi/ridesharing market share AND etc”

I'm aware of the bull case. However in general, pie-in-the-sky dreams aren't factored into asset prices like that.

For instance, Apple has a market cap of 2.2T a P/E of 40. Tesla has a market cap of 0.8T and a P/E of 1602.

Apple could get into all those markets, so should we value it at, uh, let me run the numbers here... 88 trillion dollars?

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