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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by uncoder0 »

mark_and_sweep wrote: post #99
uncoder0 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep seeing 'armed mob' posted everywhere without any evidence. What were they armed with? I watched the whole thing live from many angles and I saw plenty of people doing dumb shit like breaking windows and such. The majority just waltzed in took a tour and walked out. They even obeyed the velvet ropes in the entryway. edit: looks like at least one person was inside the capitol with a firearm and four others were…

There were 5 arrests for firearm offences, a cooler full of molotov cocktails and 2 pipebombs. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/07/ashli-babbit...

This is what I was looking for thanks. It does not specify that the firearm offenses were on the capitol and I know a few of them were from people marching while open carrying off the capitol grounds which is illegal under DC law.

The molotovs is a tidbit I didn't know about thankfully no one actually used them.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by cultus »

gnusty_gnurc wrote: post #150
maxfurman wrote: post #116

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This is whataboutism. Trump organized the rally that became the riot, he told them himself to march to the Capitol. He is responsible for what happened after that.

> Trump organized the rally that became the riot By that logic, BLM led to the destruction of cities and neighborhoods across the country for months on end. This isn't whataboutism, it's a call to suppress riots and call the activists and their sympathizers from last year to account for their bias.

Yeah I live a few blocks away from where where ANTIFA was supposedly terrorizing and burning. The only danger to the public was the tear gas the police indiscriminately used and drifted into apartments and retirement homes. You are full of it.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by oedoedxef »

danShumway wrote: post #128
oedoedxef wrote: post #65

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"I think the only people who should be able to post their comments are the ones whose opinions I agree with!"

Acknowledging that some of the comments there are pretty messed up is not the same thing as advocating for censorship. Criticism isn't censorship, criticism is free speech.

So I'm being downvoted which leads to censorship on this site, but all I did was criticize the comment, and I didn't downvote.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by Pfhortune »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #120
kevinmgranger wrote: post #66

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When you're more or less encouraging a coup, the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy couldn't be more applicable.

Did Facebook take action against the CHAZ/CHOP? Edit: Furthermore, would suspensions and bans ALSO apply to anarchists and revolutionaries? We know the answer is 'no'. It's clear to me Facebook wanted to drop Trump for a long time and did not do so for fear of repercussions. Now that there will be a new administration it is safe for them to do it.

I think you may be confusing the US Capitol Building in DC with the Capitol Hill area of Seattle.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by dcolkitt »

IMO, this potentially opens up Facebook Inc. to securities fraud lawsuits. Corporate executives by default have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder returns. They don't have to abide by this, but if they take material action towards other goals, then they must clearly disclose it in public communications. (E.g. a non-profit company can't pretend that it's not to potential investors.)

It's pretty hard to justify how banning Trump benefits shareholders. Without a doubt, his precense drives user engagement and therefore ad revenue. There's no credible threat of boycott. It's pretty clear executives made this decision in the interest of democracy rather than maximizing shareholder returns. Facebook has never disclosed this consideration on its SEC filings. Therefore under American corporate law, that opens up management to liability.

I'm not taking a stance whether this is good or bad. But I do think that politically motivated security fraud lawsuits against Twitter and Facebook are eventually inevitable. Not least because political opponents will heavily subsidize the plaintiffs, even if the case doesn't look likely to win.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by jtdev »

uncoder0 wrote: post #2

https://www.instagram.com/khamenei.en/

Understanding why Khamenei is a bad guy requires more thought and effort than the blind outrage that the traditional media, social media, and celebrity personalities have instilled in millions of intellectually lazy Americans...

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by Supermancho »

sidlls wrote: post #90
fsdfgsfsdfsdfsd wrote: post #49

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Bullshit

He literally called them special and said that he loved them. As in, he used the words "you're special" and "[I] love you". It's not ambiguous or subject to debate.

> He literally called them special and said that he loved them.

> he used the words "you're special" and "[I] love you". It's not ambiguous or subject to debate

Trump did not select those specific people out for praise ("the people invading the Capitol in Camp Auschwitz t-shirts were special and he loves them" - philk10), which was the implication. philk10's comment is ambiguous, which then goes on a derail about what words were used.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by estebarb »

I find interesting that at least in spanish facebook does NOTHING to prevent fake news, calls to assassinate local leaders, fake elections fraud and other content to spread. Even those comments are always promoted as "the most relevant". FB is an amplifier of all this mess and is ruining democracies everywhere.
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