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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#81
Zuck chooses to do it when it is certain that Trump is going and won't be of much use going forward. This is just a sham unless Facebook ensures that the platform doesn't provide space to those indulging in malicious propaganda.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep seeing 'armed mob' posted everywhere without any evidence. What were they armed with? I watched the whole thing live from many angles and I saw plenty of people doing dumb shit like breaking windows and such. The majority just waltzed in took a tour and walked out. They even obeyed the velvet ropes in the entryway. edit: looks like at least one person was inside the capitol with a firearm and four others were…

Don't drown in that kool-aid

I'm just talking about what I saw if there is other evidence I'd love to see it.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#83

Facebook is not a platform to have a voice. It’s a platform that harvests thoughts and publicizes the ones FB most agrees with while censoring those it does not. This is a slippery slope and, quite frankly, it’s the people that lose.

Yep, but the problem with people commenting there is, that thay don't like Trump, and cheer for his removal.... when the turntables are turned, and someone else is cheering, it'll be too late, because the precedent has been set, and we've let them do it.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#84
post #41

Mark Zuckerberg: The shocking events of the last 24 hours clearly demonstrate that President Donald Trump intends to use his remaining time in office to undermine the peaceful and lawful transition of power to his elected successor, Joe Biden. His decision to use his platform to condone rather than condemn the actions of his supporters at the Capitol building has rightly disturbed people in the US and around the worl…

Crazy part is that one unelected guy (Zuckerberg)has this kind of power. To make this decision at his discretion. I mean it reads like something a head of state might say. Nonetheless, at least they are doing it.

The power to create Facebook? You have the power to create a social platform as a private company. Then you can as its owner make decisions regarding the platform you created.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#85

Facebook is not a platform to have a voice. It’s a platform that harvests thoughts and publicizes the ones FB most agrees with while censoring those it does not. This is a slippery slope and, quite frankly, it’s the people that lose.

The people also lose when others abuse free speech to incite violence.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#86
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claims he won in a landslide and that the people invading the Capitol in Camp Auschwitz t-shirts were special and he loves them

Bullshit

Nope, he did say exactly that. He felt very special about them and loves them. Transcript and video is not hard to find.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#87

> involving use of our platform to incite violent insurrection against a democratically elected government. From my understanding the video that got banned asked everyone to go home peacefully but then continued to claim election fraud?

You are correct the video all the platforms are using to justify the bans explicitly asked people to go home. Previously he had urged them to be peaceful which they mostly were as evidenced by the fact that no capitol staff or police were in any way injured during the incident. edit: Leaving my comment intact as there are people who have replied. VBProgrammer pointed out that a portion of my statement is not true. Th…

Destroying and stealing is not "peaceful", it's just not "violent against people".

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are correct the video all the platforms are using to justify the bans explicitly asked people to go home. Previously he had urged them to be peaceful which they mostly were as evidenced by the fact that no capitol staff or police were in any way injured during the incident. edit: Leaving my comment intact as there are people who have replied. VBProgrammer pointed out that a portion of my statement is not true. Th…

I’m sorry and I’m being serious. Why is he banned then?

Because the above post is a misrepresentation of what was said.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#89
post #16

Now that Trump doesn't serve any value to Twitter or Facebook the bans come. Before they justified his behavior because he brought them viewers. It may be cynical but too convenient to play the morality card now.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair - and I'm someone who has no time for facebook OR twitter. I think Twitter has destroyed western journalism and facebook has been at best complicit in the growth of hate groups around the world.

All that being said: Until November of this year, he wasn't "just Donald Trump" - he was the PUSA. There's a very big difference between banning PUSA and banning DJT. Now if you want to argue they should've done this the day that the results were in back in late November - sure. But the previous 4 years? I'm not sure that was a path either company was willing to test and I can't entirely blame them.

Also: Trump serves them no value? Are you crazy? The viewers haven't gone down, and won't go down in any significant manner. For all the bluster from right-wingers of "we're making our own social network" - they all still somehow seem to be participating on both platforms.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

#90
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claims he won in a landslide and that the people invading the Capitol in Camp Auschwitz t-shirts were special and he loves them

Bullshit

He literally called them special and said that he loved them. As in, he used the words "you're special" and "[I] love you". It's not ambiguous or subject to debate.
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