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Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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Have to keep in mind that WhatsApp's customer base is not the western world, but mainly growing economies like India and African countries. WhatsApp recently rolled out Payments feature in India. In fact WhatsApp for Business is pretty good for SME to conduct business in India. Some of the shops that I went to India has paperless receipts and digital payments thru WhatsApp and UPI. They ask your WhatsApp number by de…

WhatsApp is basically a given in Europe, they want to become like WeChat in China but for outside the Chinese firewall.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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post #117

Is Matrix a good alternative to Signal? I'm currently using Signal, but I'm not entirely satisfied. My major issues are that I don't like their stance on a couple of issues: third party clients are not allowed, mobile first and desktop is only synced, phone number required, and distribution only over the app stores. Also we frequently get "encryption errors" and everybody ignores them, this is worse than with SSH key…

I would personally have a hard time convincing people to switch to Matrix when the Elements UX is so bad and I haven't found any good alternatives.

The clients are Matrix’s limiter right now. I’ve tried multiple and none are polished.

Fluffy chat may be the best, but still needs lots of love.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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post #170

Where is the "Don't switch" option? Because as much as I hate that Facebook bought them, they're part of what I would call "critical social infrastructure." Asking to leave WhatsApp is like cancelling your contract with your ISP and going offline just because you don't like the company.

That’s not a good comparison. There are many alternatives to WhatsApp and it’s not a „critical“ infrastructure. In contrast, you sometimes can’t choose your ISP and internet is much more critical.

It can be in area's (such as in The Netherlands) where literally _everyone_ is on WhatsApp and it is the default form of personal online communication. Not using WhatsApp means not being able to communicate with a lot of people.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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Signal because it has better security.

And Telegram because more of my friends use it.

At least with telegram, I can use it, turn off contact access in WhatsApp, and not give fb my address book.

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Telegram is not just another electron app, it has a great desktop client and uses minimal resources. It uses mostly c++ and qt last I checked, which makes for a great crossplatform experience too. It behaves like a desktop application, not a webapp (yes we can tell that there is a difference). So telegram gets +1 from me.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#189

Where is the "Don't switch" option? Because as much as I hate that Facebook bought them, they're part of what I would call "critical social infrastructure." Asking to leave WhatsApp is like cancelling your contract with your ISP and going offline just because you don't like the company.

How is it possible for this answer to be first... Really HN? WhatsApp is critical infrastructure??

Excluding company ownership, what is the crucial difference between all IM listed?

There's LITTLE DIFFERENCE, they all serve the same purpose, feature parity is pretty much there.

When you add company ownership to the mix, WhatsApp is owned by fucking Facebook. Let that sear in your mind.

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

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post #56

Telegram is a great IM experience . The client is good, feature set is good, the stickers are amusing (if you're into that kind of thing), the feature set is complete and everything is polished. Telegram is, I think, going to be one of the easier sells if you're trying to convince non-technical users to switch from WhatsApp or FB Messenger. The privacy, security, and governance story is not great though. If you care…

if with Telegram "the privacy, security, and governance story is not great though", why would you migrate from WhatsApp to Telegram in first place? I personally have all 3 (Signal, WhatsApp and Telegram) and use all three with different groups and scenarios.

For example:

- With my mom and grandmom: WhatsApp

- Group of friends from jiu-jitsu: WhatsApp

- Work Colleagues and friends working with Network Security: Signal

- Notifications from services that I run like weather station, waves forecast, how full my gym is right now, some other batch services that I have: Telegram

There is no reason to be radical here. We have options, and that's great!

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