As much as I would like to resist, I will have to surrender and accept the new terms for WhatsApp. The network effect is so big here, that none really bother using anything else. Just checked my address book, and I have 100+ contacts using WhatsApp, ~15 on Viber, ~15 on Telegram and ~10 on Signal, and I don't care much about most of those people on other messengers.
Poll: Switching from WhatsApp
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#112It would (have been?) interesting to know who isn't switching anywhere (and/or not considering to switch) Also, I can't seem to find anything about a messenger named Zom, do you mean Zoom? If so, is Zoom really something people use for the same use case as Whatsapp?
Not switching, because switching won't change anything except for me not being able to message anyone anymore. WhatsApp has become the national messaging platform in my country. Giving it up would be like giving up SMS 20 years ago.
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#113Is Matrix a good alternative to Signal? I'm currently using Signal, but I'm not entirely satisfied. My major issues are that I don't like their stance on a couple of issues: third party clients are not allowed, mobile first and desktop is only synced, phone number required, and distribution only over the app stores. Also we frequently get "encryption errors" and everybody ignores them, this is worse than with SSH key…
matrix-synapse(server) suffers from performance issues[1], dendrite[2], the replacement should be resolving that but is currently in beta. Apart from that it integrates fairly well with other networks through bridges.[3] It can be self hosted and it federates, which is a pro. Not too sure about audits and security, it has improved much, when I started using it (2019) they didn't have login throttling[4] and shortly a…
Your first link lists a lot of tickets than actual performance issues.
Searching on an issue tracker for the word 'performance' is not a good source for claiming there are performance issues.
Synapse used to have scaling issues. Those are pretty much fixed.[1]
[1] https://matrix.org/blog/2020/11/03/how-we-fixed-synapses-sca...
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#114I like wire ( https://wire.com/en/ ) but no one I know uses it :-/
I use it as well. It has some quirks but generally does what I want it to do.
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#115I vote for Telegram as well. You can't use Signal without a cellphone... and cellphones are a privacy nightmare. I activated Telegram with a burner phone number, and I don't have to keep the phone on to use Telegram on desktop or online. I never shared any contact with Telegram, and I added everybody manually. You don't have to give your number to be added on telegram, you can use an @handle. A a lot of people among my friends are organically switching to telegram.
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#116One of the killer features to me is being able to use a client on many varied systems (phone, tablet, computer), which my chat history shared between them. This allows me to very easily get messages anywhere, and pick up the conversation anywhere. Which of these support that?
Matrix/Element supports that with a caveat - encrypted chats are not exactly searchable (requires client side search which seems to not be there yet).
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#117Is Matrix a good alternative to Signal? I'm currently using Signal, but I'm not entirely satisfied. My major issues are that I don't like their stance on a couple of issues: third party clients are not allowed, mobile first and desktop is only synced, phone number required, and distribution only over the app stores. Also we frequently get "encryption errors" and everybody ignores them, this is worse than with SSH key…
I would personally have a hard time convincing people to switch to Matrix when the Elements UX is so bad and I haven't found any good alternatives.
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#118How many people answering this poll have the power to determine which platform all their contacts move to?
Surprisingly many, if you're bold enough to try.
The only reason me and my circle of friends use Telegram is because one of us was using an Ubuntu Phone at some point, and that was the only acceptable messaging app he could use, so we all moved on. It requires a certain authority in your group, but people are likely to adapt to you if they care about you, even if your choices inconvenience them slightly.
Of course it's never going to be "all their contacts", but the only platform that actually has all my contacts on it is good old SMS anyway.
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#119telegram
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Full ack. But then try connecting with your non-tech friends using XMPP or IRC. Won't do.
Wasnt Google Talk XMPP? It was highly successful and used by ordinary folks all over.
Yes. Google's longest-running messaging service, according to https://killedbygoogle.com/
Also they don't advertise it, but it's actually still running... just no new features, no compatibility with Hangouts/etc. and of course they disabled federation.