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Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy. Just leaving the comment for people who consider it. It's an excellent platform and a joy to use but I personally refuse to use it.

how? I thought they where the first ones to implement e2e encryption?

It is not default option there. End users need to always remember that they need to use „Secret chats“

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#22

Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy. Just leaving the comment for people who consider it. It's an excellent platform and a joy to use but I personally refuse to use it.

> Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy

Care to elaborate? Haven't heard/read anything that points in that direction. Except for the "nearby people" feature but that its up to you to enable.

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#24
Sadly the inertia of WhatsApp is something hard to escape. I would/do choose Signal with a few of my tech savvy friends. But the majority of people I know use WhatsApp, and consequently so do I.

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What's next ? What happens when Signal is bought by Microsoft and Discord is bought by Google ?

Discord doesn’t need to be bought by Google to be a huge privacy concern. No end-to-end encryption or even claims to not read direct messages, closed source, third-party clients are banned…

Re: Poll: Switching from WhatsApp

#26

Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy. Just leaving the comment for people who consider it. It's an excellent platform and a joy to use but I personally refuse to use it.

how? I thought they where the first ones to implement e2e encryption?

- Weird hand-rolled crypto protocol of questionable quality (MTProto). Probably fine in practice, but leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and their marketing to prove it made it worse. It has been through a few revisions since initial scrutiny.

- Only Secret Chats are E2EE. Normal use is just subject to transport encryption. However, this is true for any platform with server-side chat history.

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#28

Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy. Just leaving the comment for people who consider it. It's an excellent platform and a joy to use but I personally refuse to use it.

how? I thought they where the first ones to implement e2e encryption?

Their e2e encryption only applies to 1-to-1 communication in the form of Secret Chats, which can be opened from a menu multiple clicks away. Default chats and group chats are not e2e encrypted and contents are fully visible to Telegram. This however enables lot of the features Telegram has that Whatsapp/Signal do not (seamless use with multiple clients, powerful search, history is retained after switching phones etc..)

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#30

Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy. Just leaving the comment for people who consider it. It's an excellent platform and a joy to use but I personally refuse to use it.

> Telegram is a downgrade in terms of both security and privacy Care to elaborate? Haven't heard/read anything that points in that direction. Except for the "nearby people" feature but that its up to you to enable.

Some people are annoyed that the end-to-end encryption isnt on by default. You have to enable it yourself if you want to use it.

I agree its a downgrade in security. But I dont agree with it being a downgrade in privacy.

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