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Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by Strahdivarius »

MrRiddle wrote: post #22

I watched Mark Weins when he was in Pakistan. Interestingly, during multiple half an hour videos, filmed on obviously very busy streets, there was absolutely no female in sight. Such a disgusting country.

As a local with lots of family outside the few "moderate" urban bubbles (which are still far behind other societies in terms of freedom for women) this is very true and indeed depressing at best.

Not even kidding. If I opened my photo albums, you'd see barely 10 photos in a 100 that have women walking by themselves (alone, unchaperoned and out of a burqa) in those places.

This disparity has a far reaching influence over how Pakistani males interact with females in other countries, leading to Tinder profiles explicitly saying "No Pakistanis" (and sometimes Indians) in places with a large number of Indo/Pakistani expats, like Dubai.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by barry-cotter »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #67
barry-cotter wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Urdu is the native language of a very small number of Pakistanis, mostly the 3% of the population that descend from families that moved from India at independence, the Mojahirs. Punjabi and Sindhi are mother tongue to far more people.

As per the 1998 census, 7.6% of the population usually speaks Urdu in their household. http://www.pbs.gov.pk/sites/default/files/other/yearbook2007...

I’m sure there are plenty of people who aren’t Mohajirs who speak Urdu at home but a lot of those people are going to be making a political statement more than one that a linguist would agree with. You see the same shading of reality in Ireland where 10% of the population say they speak Irish weekly or in Ukraine where the number of people who said they were native speakers of Ukrainian rather than Russian jumped dramatically after the Russian invasion.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by Reason077 »

55555 wrote: post #47

This looks terrible for wind resistance and fuel efficiency, no? Also, Pakistan is home to a wealth of consistently great tech talent. I always call out Pakistan, Vietnam, and Ukraine when sourcing software developers on upwork. Just a tip. (I'm partial to Vietnam as well but tbh they have a very low English proficiency level.)

I was thinking the same. Across a large fleet of vehicles, this must add up to significant excess fuel consumption and emissions?

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

barry-cotter wrote: post #82
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As per the 1998 census, 7.6% of the population usually speaks Urdu in their household. http://www.pbs.gov.pk/sites/default/files/other/yearbook2007...

I’m sure there are plenty of people who aren’t Mohajirs who speak Urdu at home but a lot of those people are going to be making a political statement more than one that a linguist would agree with. You see the same shading of reality in Ireland where 10% of the population say they speak Irish weekly or in Ukraine where the number of people who said they were native speakers of Ukrainian rather than Russian jumped dra…

I understand what you are saying, but I think a likelier explanation is that a small percentage of the population of modern day Pakistan were already Urdu speakers before partition.

I am open to changing my mind or confirming my theory, given empirical evidence.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by selimthegrim »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #84
barry-cotter wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure there are plenty of people who aren’t Mohajirs who speak Urdu at home but a lot of those people are going to be making a political statement more than one that a linguist would agree with. You see the same shading of reality in Ireland where 10% of the population say they speak Irish weekly or in Ukraine where the number of people who said they were native speakers of Ukrainian rather than Russian jumped dra…

I understand what you are saying, but I think a likelier explanation is that a small percentage of the population of modern day Pakistan were already Urdu speakers before partition. I am open to changing my mind or confirming my theory, given empirical evidence.

To give you an example, listen to Waseem Akhtar criticizing Ch. Nisar.

https://youtu.be/qeXlgNZTcmA

You can tell by his grammar that his family belongs to UP.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by rocknor »

rob74 wrote: post #72

For some it's art, for others it's an accident hazard. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against painting the trucks, but these wooden "crowns" would lead to the truck being declared not roadworthy in any Western country. At best, they only increase the truck's weight and fuel consumption, at worst they can fall off and make accidents worse...

They probably know about all the things you mentioned better than you, since it's their livelihood.

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

tusharpandey13 wrote: post #79
rob74 wrote: post #72

For some it's art, for others it's an accident hazard. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against painting the trucks, but these wooden "crowns" would lead to the truck being declared not roadworthy in any Western country. At best, they only increase the truck's weight and fuel consumption, at worst they can fall off and make accidents worse...

The simple fact that these trucks and their owners don't give a damn about western countries is enough to counter any arguments. They're made the way they are to carry as much load as possible, and the decorations hold a sentimental value to the owners. Many of these owners own a maximum of 2 to 3 trucks and their livelihood depends on it. Considering that the profession runs in the family, it's not difficult to atta…

Of course "not giving a damn" counters an argument about endangering the people around you.

But anyway your comment seems to be a sentimental defense of some sorts, so I guess it doesn't really matter

Re: Truck Art in Pakistan (2018)

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Post by ggm »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #74
ggm wrote: post #2

The linkage between flamboyance and business is really cool! Truck hire must be very direct for this to work.

I am very much not at all familiar with Pakistan or any area outside of "the west", but I think a lot of business is done a lot more ad hoc and informal elsewhere compared to my cultural background. Things like haggling about a price or tipping are mostly foreign concepts to me, whereas they're both normal elsewhere in the world. On the other hand, we have bitterballen, snert and gezelligheid.

bitterballen should be controlled under the nuclear arms limitation treaty and FEBO shut down for trafficking. This message was authorised by the roof of my mouth.
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