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Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by ok_coo » Wed, Jan 06, 2021, 8:48 PM UTC

kingaillas wrote: post #119

ok_coo wrote: post #47

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Snapchat is what my extended family uses to communicate with each other and send fun stuff. Whatsapp for group communication with friends overseas. Both of these apps don't have the BS that comes with Facebook. If you still want to get your fix, TikTok is better platform for getting a mix of interesting content from normal people. Aside from using Facebook messenger to chat, I don't see a good purpose for Facebook an…

Do Snapchat, Whatsapp, whatever else have scheduling features? I have friends that use FB to schedule events and send invites out. And various groups I'm in use the scheduling feature to set event times, etc. One group I'm in, entirely devoted to online games, has switched to Discord. But there is a 0% chance Discord will be adopted by the rest of the groups/friends that use FB event scheduling and messaging.

I don't think Snapchat/Whatsapp has any sort of scheduling features, just sending pics and video to groups of people.

From what friends have said, FB groups features (scheduling, etc.) are what keep them on that platform, along with messenger.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by fumar » Wed, Jan 06, 2021, 8:55 PM UTC

joshmanders wrote: post #180

fumar wrote: post #154

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How will SpaceHey support itself?

There's a shop you can buy things to support it. I also plan to host the social network on my cloud hosting platform and if I have to help foot the bill, I will.

Thanks – just supported SpaceHey.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by corytheboyd » Wed, Jan 06, 2021, 9:25 PM UTC

keiferski wrote: post #15

I’ve become throughly convinced that the only way to dethrone Facebook is by creating the Next Big Thing and being crazy (and well-funded) enough to reject any acquisitions on the way up. “Delete your Facebook” social movements are doomed from the start. Social trends seem to come in waves, and people get bored quickly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the world tires of today’s brand of social media in a decade or two. Th…

TikTok is actually a great example of this, and it already exists! “But I don’t like TikTok, therefore it’s not a Facebook replacement!” you may be tempted to retort with, but the parent comment said it exactly— it’s something completely different.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by 7thaccount » Wed, Jan 06, 2021, 9:28 PM UTC

pmarreck wrote: post #165

7thaccount wrote: post #19

I deleted mine several years ago, but was only using it once every few months for a few years before that. There wasn't anything there of value anymore for me. If I want to check up on someone, I call/text and have even been drug into a snapchat group.

Many times you want to connect to someone but don't know anything but their name and who they're friends with. For example, my dad (who is 75 and whose wife died this past year) is engaging with many people on FB now, and it seems good for him

Yeah I can see how there could be some value for some folks.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by nrvn » Wed, Jan 06, 2021, 9:52 PM UTC

A bit offtopic but You know what?

1. I am not using whatsapp and recently I stumbled upon an iOS app that asked for a phone number to register and then tried to send OTP through whatsapp. SMS was a fallback option there which showed afterwards and was not active for 5 minutes because of the “timeout” between otp requests )))

2.A bottle of water advertised some lottery and had a QR code which was a FB link leading to a page that showed me a vague message about FB messenger which I don’t have.

It turns out that some people/companies nowadays assume FB and affiliated/owned companies to be a kinda standard for communication.

Boys and girls, write down and remember a simple rule: none of the commercial organizations will provide means of communication (apps, public APIs and SDKs) as standards unless those aforementioned means fit their business model.

Real standards belong either to public domain or to established non-commercial foundations with clear and transparent governance, leadership and policies.

Back on topic. I remember FB as a site that united students and alumni of major universities. This was probably the only period of fun in facebook history.

I remember VK.com being a Russian facebook clone with similar initial posture and user base which was also fun until its users started to go to jail for political reasons.

I would argue that this fate is waiting any “social” “network” after some point in their evolution.

A Cozy platform for chitchats and pic sharing gains more and more users, attention and money and transforms to a monster that starts eating its children and encourages all the deadly sins.

If you know an example of a social media that managed to escape this fate I will be happy to stand corrected.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by chapium » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 1:36 AM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #16

I am 28 and none of my peers is using FB anymore. I have some older friends that do their yearly christmas party invite on FB and some people who chat with me on FB messenger. There primarily are ads, spam, people posting commercial content and people congratulating each other for their birthdays. Is facebook this dead for anyone else?

Thats pretty much all facebook was 10 years ago as well.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by meowster » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 1:36 AM UTC

polka_haunts_us wrote: post #85

lrossi wrote: post #51

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Giving up emails or phone numbers can be risky since someone else might take it and do something unpleasant with it. Facebook accounts cannot be taken that way.

I'm curious if you could go more into the unpleasantness someone could do with an abandoned phone number. I inherited my mom's phone number years ago and recently had to dump it when I swapped my data plan. It honestly feels like the best thing that ever happened to me b/c I used to get daily spam calls and since getting the new number have gotten maybe 1 spam call total in the past two years, so had planned to chang…

In case anyone doesn't want to give up a number, but doesn't necessarily need it, you can also park the phone number at a VOIP provider for about $1/month.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by h0l0cube » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 2:01 AM UTC

nrvn wrote: post #215

A bit offtopic but You know what? 1. I am not using whatsapp and recently I stumbled upon an iOS app that asked for a phone number to register and then tried to send OTP through whatsapp. SMS was a fallback option there which showed afterwards and was not active for 5 minutes because of the “timeout” between otp requests ))) 2.A bottle of water advertised some lottery and had a QR code which was a FB link leading to…

> If you know an example of a social media that managed to escape this fate I will be happy to stand corrected.

Mastodon has a growing active community, is completely open source, federated, and community driven.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by h0l0cube » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 2:06 AM UTC

savanaly wrote: post #189

yabones wrote: post #181

What I want is a social network you have to pay for. Make it $2.50/month, and make everything order by 'created date' (ie no magic sorting algorithm). Then, every quarter after the hosting bills are paid put whatever's left into some sort of shares that each member owns (sort of like a co-op). E2EE, Federation, self-hosting, open source, etc. are all great, but they don't really address the real reason social network…

Why lump getting rid of the algorithm in with the other stuff? I don't use facebook but I use Youtube which also has a much ballyhooed algorithm. I've tried skipping their homepage (and thus skipping the algorithm) and just going to the list of videos posted by my subscribtions in what I presume is chronological order, and let's just say I usually find what I want more quickly the former way than the latter. I can on…

Being able to choose your algorithm, or even being able to replace it with one of your own or a 3rd party would be a welcome innovation here. I can see this happening on Mastodon, but not for ad revenue driven social networks.

Re: Deleting Facebook permanently

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Post by wdr1 » Thu, Jan 07, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #16

I am 28 and none of my peers is using FB anymore. I have some older friends that do their yearly christmas party invite on FB and some people who chat with me on FB messenger. There primarily are ads, spam, people posting commercial content and people congratulating each other for their birthdays. Is facebook this dead for anyone else?

What do your friends use?