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U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

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I think, for the safety of all involved, it may be time to enact section 4 of the 25th Amendment. Amendment 25 - Section 4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the Pr…

Or impeach & convict. He’s a threat to the republic, and he has to go.

Can't impeach if the capital isn't secure.

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Here’s a “fun” thought: if you were running a foreign intelligence operation in the USA, surely you’d try to get one of your agents into the mob that got into the Capitol building and given free reign over all those computers, computers that were not locked properly before the legitimate users fled for their safety? I’m not just talking about Russia and China here, I mean all the intelligence agencies.

Well yes. They'd probably have to be illegals though because the traditional legal spies will be stationed at embassies and the FBI will be watching them constantly and don't need to ask permission to stop them. Given the whole Russian play is destabilizing the US, Trump is so far gone now that they probably couldn't dream of it when planning whatever exactly they did do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27…

I mean, they could also be agents, i.e., Americans acting on the behalf of a foreign power. I guarantee the Russians are at least encouraging this on social media. (Though I also believe this is predominantly a domestic problem)

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It's the practical erosion of Free Speech. Liberal (small "l" liberal) democracy and liberal science thrives on members: 1. Being willing to admit they may be wrong 2. Having access to a diverse information diet But the past two decades have shown erosion of not only legal Free Speech, but practical free speech: * Whereas previously they were just ignored (or even rebutted), today employees, students, and professors…

In a race to get better test scores schools stopped implicitly teaching critical thought. Its easier to teach kids how to follow a set of steps to achieve a goal (math equations) rather then teach them the logic behind the steps such that they can independently come up with those same steps on their own. Yet the latter increases critical thought miles more.

In middle school I had a week long course on how to identify the trustworthiness of online sources that talked over topics like what does the site gain by pushing one narrative over another, are they selling anything that might make them artificially favor a view point over another, checking multiple sources but identifying common trends in arguments or even common site themes that might suggest the sites are ran by the same entity.

In highschool in another district all I got on the topic was "wikipedia bad because it can be edited by anyone".

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All I want to contribute to this is that if you think CNN is any different/better than Fox News you're part of the problem. They're both insanely biased echo chambers. It's so blatantly obvious too. After finding some propaganda to bash Trump with every single day for the past five years, they'll never once in the next four years ever report a negative story about Biden or his administration. Please, go ahead and count how many times it happens. This is something you can verify yourself! Of course the bias rabbit hole goes so much deeper than just that, but they're so blatantly, demonstrably, biased that the fact that anyone considers them relatively impartial journalism, any better than Fox News, makes me lose so much hope.

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post #528

I think, for the safety of all involved, it may be time to enact section 4 of the 25th Amendment. Amendment 25 - Section 4: Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the Pr…

Would make it easier to pardon him, no?

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It's the practical erosion of Free Speech. Liberal (small "l" liberal) democracy and liberal science thrives on members: 1. Being willing to admit they may be wrong 2. Having access to a diverse information diet But the past two decades have shown erosion of not only legal Free Speech, but practical free speech: * Whereas previously they were just ignored (or even rebutted), today employees, students, and professors…

"Information diet" is a useful analogy. Imagine you eat a diverse diet of candy, ice cream, potato chips, cookies, doughnuts, and fruits and vegetables. You can make your own analogies about what news sources are junk food, but you can see how trying a little bit of everything in an environment that is full of bad choices is detrimental. We all have limited stomach space and attention.

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Where's the tear gas and rubber bullets? Where is the national guard? There was more police response for a fscking photo op!

Moreover, where are AG Barr’s badgeless secret police?

Your sentiment is apt, but Barr is no longer the AG.
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