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U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

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#481

Why did judges and politicians in a number of states violated the constitution by changing state law? Why this only happened in states that went for Biden? Why are these questions being ignored by most of the media and politicians?

No it didn’t just happen in Biden states, superior courts gave controlling precedents that state courts interpret election law

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#483

It's the practical erosion of Free Speech. Liberal (small "l" liberal) democracy and liberal science thrives on members: 1. Being willing to admit they may be wrong 2. Having access to a diverse information diet But the past two decades have shown erosion of not only legal Free Speech, but practical free speech: * Whereas previously they were just ignored (or even rebutted), today employees, students, and professors…

Corollary to #1: Being willing to understand that two conflicting views on the same topic doesn't mean one of them has to be wrong

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#485

Is there ANY credible evidence of fraud, anywhere? Or are people protesting solely because they trust Trump?

There is very suspect video evidence of hidden away votes being snuck in once the room was cleared and those votes pushed Biden on top after Trump was winning. There is also iffy statistical data on the numbers of votes.

Have there been any Benford’s Law studies? Post them!

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#486
post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

The reflexive "both-sides"-ism needs to stop. One chunk of the population is (mostly) tethered to reality and the other chunk has descended into insane, delusional, conspiratorial rabbit holes. The two "realities" are not equally valid.

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#487
post #6

Is there ANY credible evidence of fraud, anywhere? Or are people protesting solely because they trust Trump?

Without hyperbole, this is textbook fascism.

Fascist Trump can't even get anyone from attacking him publicly whatsoever. You really like to use that word, but are clueless and careless.

Re: U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

#488

It's the practical erosion of Free Speech. Liberal (small "l" liberal) democracy and liberal science thrives on members: 1. Being willing to admit they may be wrong 2. Having access to a diverse information diet But the past two decades have shown erosion of not only legal Free Speech, but practical free speech: * Whereas previously they were just ignored (or even rebutted), today employees, students, and professors…

I would heartily agree and go a bit further. Over the last three decades, news organizations have traded in their neutrality and integrity for political and "narrative" influence. It is exceedingly difficult to find information presented without some attempt to mislead. The short version: There are no more Walter Cronkites or Edward R. Murrows the nation trusts to present the news without filter or spin. That coupled…

> Over the last three decades, news organizations have traded in their neutrality and integrity for political and "narrative" influence.

Have you ever actually read examples of newspapers and news reporting from the earlier parts of the 20th century? The dishonest, mendacious bias in favor of any media source's ideological preference was extreme to a degree that even today isn't readily visible. Certain media empires were absolutely ruled by their owners and even major papers like the New York Times were often loaded in slant towards certain ideological narratives. Just to name one example: Read about Walter Duranty. Things were even more vicious in the 19th century.... I have no idea where this notion of once fair, objective news sources comes from but it's certainly not rooted in the practical reality (referring in all of this to U.S media and politics, regarding other countries things get more ambiguous and complciated probably).

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#489

It is despicable how tepid the police response to armed rioters storming the Capitol has been compared to the response to BLM protests over the summer.

What evidence do you have that they are armed? In every piece of media I've seen, no one has anything in their hands.

Re: U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

#490

Are there people here on HN that believe the election was stolen? I haven't seen any evidence, most of the lawsuits haven't borne fruit either. However, I also recognize that there may be blindspots/biases. I'd really like to hear from anyone who believes this, to present a cogent argument. I promise not to attack. I want to hear the argument from the other side. I also beseech the rest of HN to please refrain from a…

I do. https://hereistheevidence.com/ and many other sources. Congresses of some states had hearings, interviewed many testimonies. Independent journalists did tons of research, see e.g. https://www.theepochtimes.com/2020-election-investigation-wh... All courts so far declined to hear anything about the fraud, dismissing cases for contrived reasons. The riots are rather expected.

You won't convince many people by citing the Epoch Times, which is a far-right Falun Gong mouthpiece that reports conspiracy theories incuding QAnon and antivax as news.

That "list" of evidence suffers from similar problems with conspiracies being reported as fact: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25662891

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