Are there people here on HN that believe the election was stolen? I haven't seen any evidence, most of the lawsuits haven't borne fruit either. However, I also recognize that there may be blindspots/biases. I'd really like to hear from anyone who believes this, to present a cogent argument. I promise not to attack. I want to hear the argument from the other side. I also beseech the rest of HN to please refrain from a…
U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests
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#322Where's the tear gas and rubber bullets? Where is the national guard? There was more police response for a fscking photo op!
Just heard on C-SPAN: "The Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol." Source: Washington Post reporter https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/status/1346908166030766080
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#323Guns has been drawn inside the barricaded senate chamber. https://missouriindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/g...
Not going to post links, but there is video on Twitter.
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#324Also, some statehouses are being attacked as well: https://twitter.com/KellyKSNT/status/1346906283421609985
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#325This is partly a result of the left steadfastly opposing measures to protect the integrity of US elections, including strong voter ID laws (which are common throughout the developed world) out of fear that such measures will somehow disenfranchise people who apparently can't even spare an hour at the DMV every few years and can't afford to pay the small processing fee ($9-13, in NY[1]) to get an id. As a non-voter, s…
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#326Trump is a bad and scary man, but one of the only good things he's done is post this tweet: "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!"
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#327How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?
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#328Is there ANY credible evidence of fraud, anywhere? Or are people protesting solely because they trust Trump?
There definitely appears to be people on camera admitting to committing a serious felony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txXfT2nLJ-w I don't think this is a Trump/Biden issue like it has been made out to be. If there are claims of election fraud, then let's see the evidence and release the audit of Dominion voting machines which many people laid down their professional lives to back the claims of election fraud.
The Georgia election official has debunked these claims. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEYvOTvqlFs
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#329Are there people here on HN that believe the election was stolen? I haven't seen any evidence, most of the lawsuits haven't borne fruit either. However, I also recognize that there may be blindspots/biases. I'd really like to hear from anyone who believes this, to present a cogent argument. I promise not to attack. I want to hear the argument from the other side. I also beseech the rest of HN to please refrain from a…
If there were evidence of a stolen election, then Trump would have won a number of court cases from one of the MANY judges, mostly ... well, conservative, to use a label ... that he placed his cases in front of.
Anyone can look at these cases and have an understanding of the actual evidence presented, and see, objectively, that there was not significant election or voter tampering, and definitely not significant enough to change the election.
I'm far more concerned about attempts to make it harder to vote before the election - the one drop box per county in TX, for example, then I am that any election was stolen.
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#330National Guard activated now.