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U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

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Post by syshum »

tstrimple wrote: post #36
detaro wrote: post #9

When does it stop being"protests" in the reporting?

When the protesters have darker skin.

Most of the reporting by media around events around the nation in response to police violence were called protests even as they devolved into violence and clear rioting so I am not sure where you get this position from

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Post by slowhand09 »

rwcarlsen wrote: post #141

I don't understand how the same people who said we should defund the police are forcefully suggesting that we need a strong police response here? I'm not going to take any sides. All sides are so rife with hypocrisy that I just don't know what to say.

Also the Mayor of the city who refused to allow Nat Guard to stay in DC hotels, is the person who requested the Nat Guard come to "protect" DC. A big part of the discussion here shows how few people look beyond their own opinion for facts. I'm fortunate enough to have access to most news networks thru-out the day. I watch Fox; I watch CNN, MSN, etc. All are lying to some extent. All are shaping the "news" they feed you. CNN... is the least honest and objective. IMHO.

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Post by paganel »

boringg wrote: post #201
tmpz22 wrote: post #124

The Confederate flag is being flown outside the senate floor [1]: [1]: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEof0AXYAkTU-w.jpg

I am curious if federal prison is worth the photo op?

They're probably going to give an amnesty for today's events, what are they going to do? Throw thousands of people in jail and make them political martyrs?

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Post by isbadawi »

f430 wrote: post #38
alasdair_ wrote: post #5

Is there ANY credible evidence of fraud, anywhere? Or are people protesting solely because they trust Trump?

There definitely appears to be people on camera admitting to committing a serious felony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txXfT2nLJ-w I don't think this is a Trump/Biden issue like it has been made out to be. If there are claims of election fraud, then let's see the evidence and release the audit of Dominion voting machines which many people laid down their professional lives to back the claims of election fraud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

Just fyi, Project Veritas has a decade-long track record of intentionally putting out misinformation.

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Post by ksk »

umvi wrote: post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

Its happening everywhere, in every political arena. I'm hearing very similar things happening in other countries as well. The hilarious part is every political side believing they are the only ones with facts. It sort of reminds me of how civilizations collapse - esp. the 'barbarians' overpowering 'civilized' Europe. All current mainstream political parties have these barbarians within them. They don't all take violent forms, but they infect people with memes and thoughts that go counter to facts and logic. In general though, I think its the slow decline of hard news with a corresponding amplification of emotional porn/entertainment/opinion/drama. The massive amount of noise that is generated makes it hard to find the signal, and social media isn't helping because they make money when "news" is more entertainment/drama than boring facts. In short, we're f?ked, and we're going to say f?ked for a while.

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Post by gorbachev »

bilekas wrote: post #113

How was it so easy to breach the building ? I see some videos of people just smashing basic windows, I really would have expected it to be more secure. These are supposed to be some of the most secure in the US?? National Guard request was denied apparently. Anyone remember how many were deployed during BLM protests.. America is now one of 'those' countries. All it took was 4 years. Wow.

This was completely predictable after what happened in Bunkerville, NV.

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Post by jeffbee »

propelol wrote: post #204
root_axis wrote: post #43

This is a failure of leadership by the republicans - plain and simple. I don't care if this comment is perceived as partisan, it's a statement of fact. If the republican leadership had unequivocally come out against the narrative that the election was stolen, this wouldn't be happening. Edit: Yes, it's true that the top leader and his acolytes have engineered this outcome, but the majority of the republican leadershi…

What is the point of a national guard if they can't be used to defend the capitol?

The DC National Guard, unique among all other guards, is under the command of the President. A state governor can call up that state's Guard, but the government of D.C. cannot.
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