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U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

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I am shocked and horrified that it is taking so long to clear those who have breached the Capitol. There is more police efficiency and aggression in a run of the mill BLM protest. Edit: for example: https://twitter.com/RedR1dngHood/status/1346908557560537091

What police efficiency during BLM protests? I have seen so many videos of looting and disorder that’s enough for a couple of years for Russia and China to use in propaganda to justify their police state.

Well they tear gassed some protestors - not looters, basically just people milling around compared to this - so Donnie could hold a Bible upside down outside a church.

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post #62
post #15

Protests? This is treason and a coup. Trump most be held responsible for this. The police aren't even wearing riot gear while shots and teargas are being fired into the capitol.

shots and teargas fired into the capitol by protesters? can i get a cite for that? nothing i've read so far indicates that, outside of a bomb threat. (which to be clear is awful, these coup-attempting "protesters" are treasonous idiots, but i haven't yet heard of them shooting)

https://twitter.com/mepfuller, https://twitter.com/olivia_beavers

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#95

This is a failure of leadership by the republicans - plain and simple. I don't care if this comment is perceived as partisan, it's a statement of fact. If the republican leadership had unequivocally come out against the narrative that the election was stolen, this wouldn't be happening. Edit: Yes, it's true that the top leader and his acolytes have engineered this outcome, but the majority of the republican leadershi…

They had their chance to do the right thing last January. Instead of holding a fair impeachment trial in the Senate, with witnesses, they chose to let this clown show go on. They are complicit.

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Is there ANY credible evidence of fraud, anywhere? Or are people protesting solely because they trust Trump?

Saying there was absolutely zero fraud in this election is inaccurate, but saying the election was "stolen" is inaccurate as well. Every election has irregularities - most of it is people making honest mistakes on forms. As is typical, it is fairly minor in this election as well. Big picture - there are problems with electronic voting that have been researched into by many academics. I believe we must insist that the source code to all voting systems to be made public.

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#98
post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

Maybe it was precipitated by a breakdown in the shared understanding of what constitutes reality somewhere earlier down the line.

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#99
post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

The defining characteristic of Trump and Brexit is the gradual realisation that you can basically say or do anything and if you go far enough it'll stick.

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#100
Interesting how all of the same liberal yuppies who endorsed last year's hot summer, with the authorities bowing before the rioters and tolerating breakaway microstates, have now turned into Thermidorian counterrevolutionaries demanding that the last futile attempt by Americans to make sure their country remains a country, rather than a global shopping mall, be punished with utmost strictness.

A good time as any to quote Joseph de Maistre:

"Every man has certain duties to perform, and the extent of these duties depends on his position in society and the extent of his means. The same action is by no means equally culpable when committed by two different men. Not to stray from our subject, the same act which results only from a mistake or a foolish characteristic in an obscure person, thrust suddenly into unlimited power, could be a foul crime in a bishop or a duke or a peer.

Indeed, some actions, which are excusable and even praiseworthy from an ordinary point of view, are fundamentally infinitely criminal. For example, if someone says, I have espoused the cause of the French Revolution in good faith, through a pure love of liberty and my country; I have believed in my soul and conscience that it would lead to the reform of abuses and to the general good, we have nothing to say in reply. But the eye of him who sees into every heart discerns the stain of sin; he discovers in a ridiculous misunderstanding, in a small puncturing of pride, in a base or criminal passion, the prime moving force behind those ambitions we wish to present to the world as noble: and for him the crime is compounded by grafting the falsehood of hypocrisy onto treason. But let us look at the nation in general.

One of the greatest possible crimes is undoubtedly an attack upon sovereignty, no other having such terrible consequences. If sovereignty resides in one man and this man falls victim to an outrage, the crime of lese-majesty augments the atrocity. But if this sovereign has not deserved his fate through any fault of his own, if his very virtues have strengthened the guilty against him, the crime is beyond description. This is the case in the death of Louis XVI; but what is important to note is that never has such a great crime had more accomplices. The death of Charles I had far fewer, even though it was possible to bring charges against him that Louis XVI did not merit. Yet many proofs were given of the most tender and courageous concern for him; even the executioner, who was obliged to obey, did not dare to make himself known. But in France, Louis XVI marched to his death in the middle of 60,000 armed men who did not have a single shot for their king, not a voice was raised for the unfortunate monarch, and the provinces were as silent as the capital. We would expose ourselves, it was said. Frenchmen - if you find this a good reason, talk no more of your courage or admit that you misuse it!"

s/French Revolution/BLM

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