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What I Use Instead of Google

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Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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Using YouTube with Firefox Containers is in no way anonymous. Instead try to use it with the Tor Browser (also checkout the Invidious project).

No way, Google constantly blocks TOR with tons of their captcha.

That's why I mentioned the Invidious project which is a YouTube frontend. Also solving the ReCaptcha is for most of us not an insurmountable task, it's definitely worth the cost if you want some real privacy.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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I try to use Bing for all my searches (set it as the browser default), but at least a third of the time I end up needing to open Google and search there instead. Anyone got any tips for getting better results out of Bing? It doesn't help that when I'm using a VPN, searching for an English term often causes Bing to deliver a bunch of results in the native language of the place the VPN is located, rather than in Englis…

If you sign in with a Microsoft Account, Bing does a bit better at guessing which language/locality you want results in, and a few other related things.

Of course, at that point you are just trading opt-out Google tracking for opt-in Bing tracking, and that may defeat some of the reasoning behind why you are using VPN for those searches. I find Bing ads and Bing tracking far less problematic and insidious than Google's, so it's an interesting trade off, for sure. One interesting part of the trade off that Google doesn't match (neither opt-out nor opt-in tracking) is "Microsoft Rewards" where Bing gives you a small cut of tracked ad fees in "rewards points" (like credit card/frequent flyer "mileage" programs) that you can redeem for things like gift cards. Sure, it's a cynical loyalty grab, but at least for me it shows that Microsoft still prefers to be a product company at the end of the day and is a little less likely to fall into the evil opt-out only panopticon tracking ad direction that Google has. Obviously other people's opinions vary, and many are loathe to trust Microsoft, but it's an interesting trade-off to be aware of.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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I try to use Bing for all my searches (set it as the browser default), but at least a third of the time I end up needing to open Google and search there instead. Anyone got any tips for getting better results out of Bing? It doesn't help that when I'm using a VPN, searching for an English term often causes Bing to deliver a bunch of results in the native language of the place the VPN is located, rather than in Englis…

Makes sense to try duckduckgo or startpage? My Bing using experience was extremely bad for all non-tech, maybe except sport.

> My Bing using experience was extremely bad for all non-tech

Do you mean it's good for tech searches? That would be good news, because those are pretty much the only searches DDG uniformly performs badly on, for me - the only searches where I know that a `!g` would improve the results significantly. Perhaps it should be a `!b` instead now, I'll try it out.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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Every time I try to get out of google they (my colleagues) pull me back in. They share documents in google docs and google drive. I have no choice but to keep my google account.

Firefox Containers are extremely helpful in this regard. I put off using them for a long time because i thought it would be a hassle but it’s super easy and keeps your work-related google activity segregated from the rest of your digital life. It also helps a lot with switching between google accounts; before I used containers I was constantly fighting with Google’s account switcher, which more often than not just st…

It's been really interesting to see the shift in ads and other things across the entire web when I forced all of my Google interactions to non-default containers. The amount of painful ReCaptcha interactions I've had has gone way up, but getting rid of a lot of the low quality "personalized" ads generally seems worth it.

It was most useful for cleaning up the horror show that is YouTube recommendations if random YouTube videos from searches and chat recommendations don't get tracked to my logged in account. There's still a ton of noise in the recommendations engine and I will never trust auto-play again, but I'm having to block and/or report fewer channels and I don't automatically shudder just seeing the recommendations column show up above the fold anymore (though I still tend to prefer browser widths that drop recommendations below the video I'm watching because what a waste of space that is).

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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We’re trying to build a competitor to Google ads, targeted at developers: https://www.ethicalads.io/

As developers we understand the most how privacy is violated across the Internet. If we can’t contribute to the change in the ecosystem, we don’t have much hope for the rest of the industry.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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post #83

This is a business opportunity to provide services at a minimal cost for people. Say 1$ per month per service. Email - 1$ Calendar - 1$ Document Collab - 1$ Each addon a calculated minimalist approach to each. I still recall what gmail was when it was invite only back in the early aughts. I would still utilize that gmail client. I do NOT need gmail as it is today. And I would certainly pay 1$ per month for that servi…

Mailbox.org offers email, calendar, and some docs/storage functionality for 2.5E/m .

Sounds like there's even a 1 € per month plan [1], with smaller limits.

There's also Tutanota with a €12/year plan, offering a little bit less but with end-to-end encrypted email and calendars.

[1] https://mailbox.org/en/services#e-mail-account [2] https://tutanota.com/pricing/

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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> Maps → Apple maps If Apple were a different company, it would've made maps available for use on web browsers and non-Apple devices. That could also help in a more rapid improvement of maps as opposed to the mostly-useless state it's been in (except for a few countries and regions in certain countries that Apple likes and works more on). > and still a little YouTube (anonymously in a Firefox container) If a Firefox…

I finally got around to installing a PiHole, and it blew my mind that the default behavior was to use an upstream resolver. I had never imagined that the countless folks more privacy-oriented than myself, would tolerate this. After reading up on it, okay, I get that those upstream forwarding resolvers will be faster due to being geographically distributed and having a huge number of users (== very current cache), but…

It's more complicated than that: using unbound is basically trusting your ISP with your DNS data (it's not encrypted so it can MITM). Using an upstream resolver doesn't necessarily mean you give up on privacy.

It may actually be more private to use a public resolver (with DoT or DoH of course) that will know your IP address but maybe not directly tie it to your identity (like an ISP does). Also, imo they generally have better privacy policies than ISPs (not that I trust those but still).

The next more private options include using DNS over Tor or Oblivious DNS (https://blog.cloudflare.com/oblivious-dns/). Those options are better for privacy, but I don't see them are default (at least for now) as they imply some slowness (Tor) or are more opinionated (ODNS).

Even after all that, your browser will leak the SNI header in clear-text (eSNI isn't popular yet) so your ISP can still get the precise name of the site you want to visit.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox Containers are extremely helpful in this regard. I put off using them for a long time because i thought it would be a hassle but it’s super easy and keeps your work-related google activity segregated from the rest of your digital life. It also helps a lot with switching between google accounts; before I used containers I was constantly fighting with Google’s account switcher, which more often than not just st…

It's been really interesting to see the shift in ads and other things across the entire web when I forced all of my Google interactions to non-default containers. The amount of painful ReCaptcha interactions I've had has gone way up, but getting rid of a lot of the low quality "personalized" ads generally seems worth it. It was most useful for cleaning up the horror show that is YouTube recommendations if random YouT…

> The amount of painful ReCaptcha interactions

I've found that clicking the Headphone icon and transcribing the few words makes this a much less annoying experience (especially as a non-American [1]). It also seems more forgiving of errors, though the audio is pretty clear anyway.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25226805

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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> I suspect means it [DDG] would be a perfectly fine replacement for most people I suspect otherwise. DDG is as good as Google in certain topics, especially programming-related topics. But otherwise, not so good. Sometimes, it feels like it simply has indexed less pages than Google. But I still use DDG as much as possible, only !g when the results are unsatisfactory. I don't know how much it actually help DDG, though…

> DDG is as good as Google in certain topics, especially programming-related topics. But otherwise, not so good.

Interesting, my experience is exactly the opposite (as I mentioned in another comment here). In general searches, DDG and Google return about equally good results, with 10% of the time DDG doing better and 10% of the time Google doing better. With programming-related searches, Google is pretty much guaranteed to return better results for me. Doing the Advent of Code 2020 was the first time in months that I had to consistently do `!g` re-searches, because DDG results were significantly worse.

Re: What I Use Instead of Google

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post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How's the legality of recording a call if the other party does that as well?

In a lot of places it is legal to record a call as long as one of the parties (that is yourself) is in on it. That is, you can't record a call between two other people but you can always record a call that yourself are participating in.

Careful with this one. In the US, while most states "one party notification states" and operate as you describe:

> Eleven (11) states require the consent of everybody involved in a conversation or phone call before the conversation can be recorded. Those states are: California, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.[0]

Recording without all parties' permission in these states is at least a misdemeanor.

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+party+notification+state...

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