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Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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Is 1.7k open issues something to worry about or is it normal for a project of this size? PS: I have also been building something similar, but not completely open-source: https://www.usertrack.net

I also compare open issues to closed issues. If the numbers are roughly the same (or the open issues bigger than closed) I'd say that's a problem.

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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post #3

Is 1.7k open issues something to worry about or is it normal for a project of this size? PS: I have also been building something similar, but not completely open-source: https://www.usertrack.net

I think it's more a consequence of not tidying up. There are irrelevant issues open from 2008. On the other hand I prefer 1.7k issues to project where they aggressively auto-close tickets

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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As a non-web developper, I always wondered:

Are these alternatives fully able to replace Google analytics?

I sort of thought Google analytics would tell you more about your visitors since with Google cookies, they could map them to other visited websites, centers of interest, age group, etc.

Are you loosing all that when switching to a less intrusive analytics platform such as this, or is Google analytics not leveraging their ability to disclose more about the visitors?

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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I've tried to use it and... they could work on improving the installation guide. I gave up after an hour or so of failing to provision the database and create configuration in a way that gets me to the initial setup screen. I was using their docker setup for this.

It's kind of my job to take random apps, deploy them and manage properly, so I'm not a clueless user here. I could press on and figure it out with more time, and I understand they'd be happy with people using the cloud offering / paid support instead. But I also feel like a working docker-compose (or comparable) setup is table stakes these days for an open-source service.

See Loki+Grafana for a good example: https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/installation/docker/#in... - it's not a production setup, but it's a valid "play around with it in 2min" setup.

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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post #14

As a non-web developper, I always wondered: Are these alternatives fully able to replace Google analytics? I sort of thought Google analytics would tell you more about your visitors since with Google cookies, they could map them to other visited websites, centers of interest, age group, etc. Are you loosing all that when switching to a less intrusive analytics platform such as this, or is Google analytics not leverag…

Due to the amount of people blocking Google Analytics with browser extensions, Pi-Holes and other tools I find GA increasingly lacking good analytics.

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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post #10

A startup I worked with used Piwik(now Matomo) & defrauded investors with fake visits by tampering with the DB. Any VC should actively be involved & knowledgeable of analytics that is presented to you in order to avoid being ripped off.

I'm not sure if this is specific to Matomo. You could use headless agents over web proxies around the world to inflate Google Analytics as well. It just costs less to do it in your own DB.

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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post #14

As a non-web developper, I always wondered: Are these alternatives fully able to replace Google analytics? I sort of thought Google analytics would tell you more about your visitors since with Google cookies, they could map them to other visited websites, centers of interest, age group, etc. Are you loosing all that when switching to a less intrusive analytics platform such as this, or is Google analytics not leverag…

Google Analytics tells you more about your audience because it stalks people across the web. Matomo can never provide that without having a broad range of websites from which you collect data and writing custom code to annotate visitors with your own interest tags.

Matomo purely tracks analytics: who visited what page, for how long, from what device, from what location, from what inbound website, and what outbound links did they click. It also provides a log of pages requested per session so you can analyze people's flows through your website.

It's certainly not a replacement for Google Analytics if you use it to collect background information on your visitors. Even though Google's information is very broad (you mostly get ranges and the interests aren't that reliable), some marketeers use it to make decisions about their marketing strategies. Matomo won't help you there, your alternative would probably be Facebook or another big tech tracking solution.

It does provide a replacement for the type of tracking that I personally find acceptable, assuming the IP addresses are anonymized sufficiently. Matomo recommends shortening IP addresses to /16 after analysis, which I consider good enough, but that's a setting administrators can change.

Re: Matomo: Open-source analytics platform

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which parts are open source in usertrack ? you say not completely open-source

I say it's not completely open-source mainly because it's not free and people usually expect open-source to equal free. Once you purchase it you get full access to the original server-side code (PHP, MySQL). For the client-side part you only get the bundled JS/HTML/CSS (the original client-side source code is TypeScript, React), mostly because otherwise I would have to provide all the build tools and document better…

> people usually expect open-source to equal free.

Open source has a specific meaning - is the Software released on an open source license. (https://opensource.org/licenses) For example if you pay enough, you get ms windows source as well - that doesn't make it "not completely open source". Your project doesn't seem to be open source at all.

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