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The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by madamelic »

scrollaway wrote: post #15
ohazi wrote: post #10

Consumer crowdfunding websites like kickstarter and indiegogo have largely failed to live up to their early hype. Campaigns now fall into two categories: designer vaporware from people you've never heard of, and established companies that don't need crowdfunding but are using it anyway for marketing purposes. On the other hand... niche crowdfunding websites like Crowd Supply seem to be doing better than ever. There a…

Yeah. I'm wondering if there's somewhere that actively tracks this stuff, especially the popular ones. The park & diamond helmet for example ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/park-diamond-foldable-bik... ) raised over 2.5MM EUR and I lost track of how late it is but they've easily sent 10-15 updates saying "sorry, we didn't get it in time for [MONTH], but we'll be ready in [MONTH+2], promise!". They gave me a refu…

Oh my gosh, I love that their graphic [0] skips 2019 to make it seem like they haven't taken two years.

That's disingenuous if I've ever seen it.

[0]: https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/...

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by wccrawford »

prdonahue wrote: post #48

Is that long? I backed a spinoff of Sierra's old Space Quest almost 9 years ago: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceventure/two-guys-s... . Still waiting patiently :)

Oh lord, has that really been 9 years now? Wow.

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by electro_blah »

jasongill wrote: post #6

I think the "still going after 7 years" means "still hasn't been released after 7 years". It was supposed to be for sale in 2014 and still hasn't shipped yet (from what I can find in Google). The creators have been stringing along their backers for the better part of a decade. As far as utility, it seems like more of a gimmick than something that would get regular use. I can't think of a time when I've been working o…

So, Is this Vaporware or Hardware?

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by mike_d »

nikkwong wrote: post #22
hiimtroymclure wrote: post #3

Back in 2011 I thought Kickstarter and crowdfunding in general was so cool. I funded a maybe 20+ projects. I think I received 4-5 items and the products i did receive were very underwhelming. Probably half of the projects I never even heard from after the funding closed. Needless to say I haven't been on KS in a long, long time.

Crowdfunding on Kickstarter changed my life. I was just a kid with an idea in college in 2014 and decided to try a project that became a business that I am still running today. I think there are gems to be found here and there, but it is definitely to find the signal in the noise.

I think the comment you replied to was pointing out that Kickstarters are generally bad for consumers. No doubt you and a bunch of other people have made out well on the supply side.

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by mike_d »

DanBC wrote: post #11
jasongill wrote: post #6

I think the "still going after 7 years" means "still hasn't been released after 7 years". It was supposed to be for sale in 2014 and still hasn't shipped yet (from what I can find in Google). The creators have been stringing along their backers for the better part of a decade. As far as utility, it seems like more of a gimmick than something that would get regular use. I can't think of a time when I've been working o…

But also, hammers for framing or demolition already exist and are very good. Martinez M1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8AOrkfR1WM A bunch of different hammers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabECxs3WhU

Came here to mention the Martinez M1. Hammers are basically a solved problem. I hope to one day have a project big enough to justify buying one.

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by g051051 »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #30

Anecdata: of the 36 projects (not including projects that failed to get backing) I have backed in the past 8 years: - 4 were outright scams (only 1 was caught and cancelled by KS) - 32 delivered, practically all were very delayed, sometimes by years. - Of the 32, most were as promised, but some turned out useless - At least half I regretted buying One thing that was very apparent (here as IRL) is that software projec…

Cool idea, let's see how I did:

- 41 projects backed

- 5 unsuccessful

- 5 I cancelled

- 1 outright scam

- 1 not delivered

- 27 delivered

- 2 still pending, including SpaceVenture at 9 years.

Of the 27 delivered

- 15 video games or software. Most were delayed, but were generally considered excellent when they were finally delivered.

- 4 physical objects that wound up being just OK. (Coffee Joules, Brimstone Card Deck, Fidget Cube, Thimble Slide)

- 8 media (books or cds) that I mostly really liked

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by indispensible »

warent wrote: post #50
jasongill wrote: post #6

I think the "still going after 7 years" means "still hasn't been released after 7 years". It was supposed to be for sale in 2014 and still hasn't shipped yet (from what I can find in Google). The creators have been stringing along their backers for the better part of a decade. As far as utility, it seems like more of a gimmick than something that would get regular use. I can't think of a time when I've been working o…

How are they stringing them along? The Kickstarter can no longer receive funds. Do scammers typically provide updates for 7+ years after they stopped receiving money?

Typically, if the project meets its goal, the project is allowed to make updates indefinitely, even if the project never comes to fruition.

It's a shame, really. Speaking from experience, I once raised over $20K USD on a $48K goal. The project failed on Kickstarter; however, I was able to raise funds and complete the project by other means, but Kickstarter does not allow me to make updates to the project because it 'failed.'

I have to ask, though... which project is a failure, the one which is completed despite failing to meet the Kickstarter goal, or the one which meets the goal but never delivers?

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by michaelcampbell »

AlexandrB wrote: post #9
jasongill wrote: post #6

I think the "still going after 7 years" means "still hasn't been released after 7 years". It was supposed to be for sale in 2014 and still hasn't shipped yet (from what I can find in Google). The creators have been stringing along their backers for the better part of a decade. As far as utility, it seems like more of a gimmick than something that would get regular use. I can't think of a time when I've been working o…

I think the king of stringing along backers is still Star Citizen who - 8+ years after the original Kickstarter[1] - are still taking crowdfunding money with no finished product in sight. [1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen

My son was big into this game 6-8 years ago. We bought and put together a PC for him. I bought him a $35 ship. While I cherish the time I spent with him building the rig, and he's surpassed me in "what's good these days in PC stuff", he's now a sophomore in college in another state.

Still no game.

Re: The Cole-Bar Hammer, a 7-year old Kickstarter that is still going

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Post by mypalmike »

bbarn wrote: post #49
FullyFunctional wrote: post #30

Anecdata: of the 36 projects (not including projects that failed to get backing) I have backed in the past 8 years: - 4 were outright scams (only 1 was caught and cancelled by KS) - 32 delivered, practically all were very delayed, sometimes by years. - Of the 32, most were as promised, but some turned out useless - At least half I regretted buying One thing that was very apparent (here as IRL) is that software projec…

I used to be super into my cooking knives, but after a decade of using everything from rubber handled target chef knives to 300+$ japanese art-work knives, I've learned that it's better to buy a 40 dollar chef knife every 3 years than a 200$ one every... 3 years.

This is meandering pretty far off topic but... Why do you need a new chef's knife every 3 years? I've had my reasonably-priced Victorinox for probably a decade. With routine sharpening using quality stones (they cost more than the knife), I don't see needing to replace it in the next decade.
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