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> And yes you need to install application extensions via the store, so what? Writing your own code and executing that is explicitly forbidden. Be it REPLs or compiler suites. That too would have to go through the store. Only interpreters are allowed. The other issue is obviously that you can’t have an extension developed by person A for an app developed by person B. It’s very common to see mods, plugins, addons whate…
You can perfectly do plugins on Android, that is how printer drivers work for example. Just use Android IPC mechanisms instead of trying to copy UNIX patterns.
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#155While I really, really want a GNU/Linux Android-alternative to succeed, at the moment a good solution for those of us who can't go without Termux is LineageOS [1], an Android fork, comes with a terminal emulator WITH root access (of course you can install Termux if you prefer how it handles packages.) You can also install Play Store apps on it, should you feel so inclined. [1] https://lineageos.org/
How does LineageOS compare to /e/OS?
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> For instance, Librem 5 USA costs a cool $2,000. This is an extremely misleading example. You pay $2k if you want your phone to be produced in the USA. How much do alternative phones produced in the USA cost? Standard Librem 5 model costs $800, Pinephone costs $150 or $200.
Indeed, the $2k example was misleading, but the fact it's still $800 for a phone with 2014 specs alone would have been more than enough to get his point across. You do have to pay 3-4x the price you would otherwise to get the privilege of running another OS on older hardware with arguably less functionality (OOTB, at least).
What other market have you seen that acts differently? Look at how much other niche devices like Braille screens cost, or even more "mainstream" specialized hardware like the Remarkable Tablet -- arguably a much less capable E-Reader than a Kindle/Kobo device by almost all consumer-relevant metrics. But you'll pay more for stylus support on an E-ink screen if you need that, and you'll tolerate a suboptimal reading experience as well.
It's also important not to ignore the fact that the Librem is a flagship device. It is currently the most powerful Linux phone hardware on the market. So you can buy a cheap, low-powered Pinephone (the far better choice for most tinkerers), or you can shell out for something with more raw power -- which is also pretty consistent with how most markets work.
If you want to buy the single top-of-the-line Wacom tablet, you'll shell out at least $4,000, probably more when you factor in accessories. You want rotational support in the pen? That's another $100. Is the fractional improvement in a Cintiq Pro 'worth' the frankly massive price increase over consumer tablets? Probably not, you can buy an entire Surface Studio for the same price, and that comes with a "free" computer. But you'll pay the Cintiq price if you belong to a niche that needs the best the market currently has to offer for your particular use-case. And you'll pay the Librem price if you belong to a niche that needs the (currently) most powerful phone hardware that's realistically usable with a Linux OS.
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#157looks like I don't own my device but google own device. Looks like google wants to make virtual wall and gates like that of apple.
You can still install whatever apps you want on your device. Much easier than you can on an iPhone.
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#158While I really, really want a GNU/Linux Android-alternative to succeed, at the moment a good solution for those of us who can't go without Termux is LineageOS [1], an Android fork, comes with a terminal emulator WITH root access (of course you can install Termux if you prefer how it handles packages.) You can also install Play Store apps on it, should you feel so inclined. [1] https://lineageos.org/
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> If Bob paid $COST for a phone and it got exploited because of this, Bob may throw his phone out of the nearest window. You and I both know, despite many attempts, there is no hardware or software out there that is unexploitable. From the most locked down chromebook to Apple's walled garden, these devices can and are exploited. The idea that if somehow we take away enough of your freedom we'll make the device safe i…
Just because nothing is completely secure doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to make things as secure as possible.
Should you harden memory? Setup SELinux? Yeah, do those things, those are good meaningful things to do.
Should you prevent users from running apps? Prevent downloads? Restrict third party apps? What about tracking everything the user types in? Tracking every app the user opens and when they open it (eg, Apple)?
What about bypassing user firewalls (Apple again)? That's for "security", right? Forcing your own DNS resolver (Google)?
User hostility is never an acceptable tradeoff for security.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed, the $2k example was misleading, but the fact it's still $800 for a phone with 2014 specs alone would have been more than enough to get his point across. You do have to pay 3-4x the price you would otherwise to get the privilege of running another OS on older hardware with arguably less functionality (OOTB, at least).
Is that unreasonable? Running another OS on a device with physical hardware switches is a privilege right now, so it costs more. There are essentially two companies doing this, and neither of them are even at the point where they can completely honestly say their products are out of beta. The Librem is expensive in no small part because its feature list is fringe, and even ignoring the inherent hardware challenges th…