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The problem is, even if I can be OK with bugs and problems with Signal UI, I cannot make my friends (or my 80-year-old Mom) be OK too. I personally know literally nobody who uses Signal (and a number of my friends are geeks:-)). Network effect, you know... :-(
I'm curious what bugs you've experienced? The only ones I've seen are on my friends' phones and they are because those phones have extremely aggressive battery optimizations that essentially block Signal from running in the background. Once it is turned off then things work smoothly. I imagine this is a network effect related issue and that apps like WhatsApp are getting special presets because their popularity.
Telegram publishes users' locations online
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#212Telegram will continue to expose its most sensitive users over novel features while they try to capitalize on use of the Signal protocol. The profit motivation predicted this.
Don't trust Telegram.
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#213Signal puts your safety first because of the organization behind it. Telegram will continue to expose its most sensitive users over novel features while they try to capitalize on use of the Signal protocol. The profit motivation predicted this. Don't trust Telegram.
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Signal is terrible. I use the app still, but it’s horribly buggy. The disappearing messages, a hallmark feature, is fundamentally broken in some way that I can’t fully comprehend. Totally unreliable. Telegram is better in every way... except security.
> Telegram is better in every way... except security. Which is why anyone bothers with these type apps in the first place, I'd like to say I'm dissapointed with the sentiment towards Signal, especially given how many here work in tech and understand how leaky these apps are designed to be and how hard development can be with a bare bones team (I experienced this first hand), but it never fails to bank on the notion t…
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You can use a separate dumbphone for the sms verifications. It's at least much better.
or a VoIP number
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#216Signal puts your safety first because of the organization behind it. Telegram will continue to expose its most sensitive users over novel features while they try to capitalize on use of the Signal protocol. The profit motivation predicted this. Don't trust Telegram.
Telegram uses the Signal protocol? How do you propose Telegram give their users the ability to expose their location to other people without exposing their location to them?
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> Telegram is better in every way... except security. Which is why anyone bothers with these type apps in the first place, I'd like to say I'm dissapointed with the sentiment towards Signal, especially given how many here work in tech and understand how leaky these apps are designed to be and how hard development can be with a bare bones team (I experienced this first hand), but it never fails to bank on the notion t…
The problem is, even if I can be OK with bugs and problems with Signal UI, I cannot make my friends (or my 80-year-old Mom) be OK too. I personally know literally nobody who uses Signal (and a number of my friends are geeks:-)). Network effect, you know... :-(
For my part, I find it fully amusing when a add another parent to my contacts, and they come up in Signal. <3
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It took me a while to find it on iOS, it’s under the contacts tab called “find people near by”. It doesn’t seem to work without location enabled so hopefully that would keep you safe.
Wow Telegram ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Most folks would be inclined to look under "Settings" rather than "Contacts" for something like this. How strange!
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> Telegram is better in every way... except security. Which is why anyone bothers with these type apps in the first place, I'd like to say I'm dissapointed with the sentiment towards Signal, especially given how many here work in tech and understand how leaky these apps are designed to be and how hard development can be with a bare bones team (I experienced this first hand), but it never fails to bank on the notion t…
> he refused to have that rock, paper, scissor match What I thought was the funniest part (strangest) is that Moxie walked back to "I'll give you a suggestion of people and you don't even have to have any of them on" and Joe still treated it like Moxie could dictate who was going to be on the podcast. But what's the difference between that and any other guest being like "hey, you should check out ________!" which hap…
Maybe, but I saw it more as a way to try to have a little fun in what had been a stalled conversation due to Joe's lack of understanding on why cryptology has become vital and the implications of its need in modern Society.
I wish Joe had done some basic research and mentioned the first crypto wars himself and the fallout with Zimmerman had with PGP and Moxie would have probably opened more about how that pertains to erosion of privacy and security on the internet and the implications of the Surveillance Economy that has grown like a deadly tumor on Society since the Patriot Act and why Signal was created in the first place. He's had Snowden, Glenn Greenwald and Andreas Antonopolous on several times now, there is no excuse for not being some what informed given his general curiosity on the topic by now and making the most of those podcasts and having Moxie speak on such a large platform.
Honestly, I wish he had let him request Laura Poitras to come on as she can bring the topic to the massess in a relatable manner better than anyone I've seen so far--hell I remember first seeing CCC and Defcon videos being totally overwhelmed by the speakers so much I couldn't follow any of it. This may be because she comes from a non-technical background as a film maker that has been around Cypherpunks for decades now but has also been at the center of so much of the polemics (Assange, Snowden, Wikileaks, Intercept etc...) of it all and likely saw how valuable it is in life and death situations very quickly.
My issue is with the dropped calls and poor call quality, but given how few people use the voice based calls they because Signal knows how vital to optimize for low bandwidth things like messages given its prime demographic in places with real reasons to use this app for its intended purpose. Again, totally understandable to me and something that they will eventually get to.
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I'm curious what bugs you've experienced? The only ones I've seen are on my friends' phones and they are because those phones have extremely aggressive battery optimizations that essentially block Signal from running in the background. Once it is turned off then things work smoothly. I imagine this is a network effect related issue and that apps like WhatsApp are getting special presets because their popularity.
Out of curiosity, are these friends running Android or iOS devices?